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Yeah, dude, posting a video of you getting kicked out primarily hints that you were being an idiot of some kind. Occam's razor, simplest explanation and whatno

Yeah, dude, posting a video of you getting kicked out primarily hints that you were being an idiot of some kind. Occam's razor, simplest explanation and whatnot. Feel free and try to elaborate / prove otherwise. Also, FYI, CCC team has "Hausrecht" and if they tell you to leave you legally need to leave and they're well within rights to evict you.

scurvy 7y ago
IANAL, but you can't physically eject someone from a space in most civilized countries even if they're doing something wrong. Call the polizei/police. There are exceptions for immediate threat to life, but you can't go wild and start kicking and punching someone for trespassing. That's assault and the video footage is possible evidence that could lead to charges. I was a bouncer in a previous life, and there were very strict rules to follow after asking someone to leave.
- krapp 7y ago
  >There are exceptions for immediate threat to life, but you can't go wild and start kicking and punching someone for trespassing. I didn't see anyone "go wild and start kicking and punching" in the linked video. Maybe it happened, the video isn't the clearest and it turns away from the action more than once, but that still isn't what the video appears to show.
- dtornabene 7y ago
  yes, you can. Its called being a bouncer. I did it for 15 years. You don't kick and punch, and the video show quite clearly that the staff were simply trying to eject him.
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StavrosK 7y ago
> Feel free and try to elaborate / prove otherwise. Isn't that what this entire post is doing? In contrast, you're saying "oh they kicked you out therefore they must be right".
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- eqvinox 7y ago
  > Isn't that what this entire post is doing? In contrast, you're saying "oh they kicked you out therefore they must be right". Sure, it's telling a story from his perspective, and then has some audio and video of the actual eviction. I don't see an issue with the eviction itself and for what happened before it's his word against the CCC. Until further information is provided, I choose to trust CCC over his word.
einrealist 7y ago
Hausrecht does not allow an assault or removal by force by the organizers. That's the domain of the police.
- eqvinox 7y ago
  Hausrecht doesn't, but threatening others does. (See other threads.)
  - FDSGSG 7y ago
    The way you repeatedly suggest that VC was threatening others is bordering on defamatory.
- ulope 7y ago
  Funnily enough it does: https://www.kostenlose-urteile.de/LG-Nuernberg-Fuerth_13-S-872894_Hausrecht-ist-ein-notwehrfaehiges-Rechtsgut.news2971.htm https://www.kostenlose-urteile.de/LG-Nuernberg-Fuerth_13-S-8...
cannedslime 7y ago
He wasn't being an idiot. If you were literate, you would have snupped out the fact that he was told to write an "im sorry for having a different opinion" essay in order to attend, which he didn't. Why should he... Having an opinion is not a crime. Also he was clearly physically assaulted by a bunch of teenagers who obviously isn't up to snuff when it comes to performing security detail. Having untrained security personel manhandle other attendants looks really bad no matter how you look at it.

scurvy 7y ago

IANAL, but you can't physically eject someone from a space in most civilized countries even if they're doing something wrong. Call the polizei/police. There are exceptions for immediate threat to life, but you can't go wild and start kicking and punching someone for trespassing. That's assault and the video footage is possible evidence that could lead to charges. I was a bouncer in a previous life, and there were very strict rules to follow after asking someone to leave.

krapp 7y ago
>There are exceptions for immediate threat to life, but you can't go wild and start kicking and punching someone for trespassing. I didn't see anyone "go wild and start kicking and punching" in the linked video. Maybe it happened, the video isn't the clearest and it turns away from the action more than once, but that still isn't what the video appears to show.
dtornabene 7y ago
yes, you can. Its called being a bouncer. I did it for 15 years. You don't kick and punch, and the video show quite clearly that the staff were simply trying to eject him.
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StavrosK 7y ago

> Feel free and try to elaborate / prove otherwise. Isn't that what this entire post is doing? In contrast, you're saying "oh they kicked you out therefore they must be right".

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eqvinox 7y ago
> Isn't that what this entire post is doing? In contrast, you're saying "oh they kicked you out therefore they must be right". Sure, it's telling a story from his perspective, and then has some audio and video of the actual eviction. I don't see an issue with the eviction itself and for what happened before it's his word against the CCC. Until further information is provided, I choose to trust CCC over his word.

einrealist 7y ago

Hausrecht does not allow an assault or removal by force by the organizers. That's the domain of the police.

eqvinox 7y ago
Hausrecht doesn't, but threatening others does. (See other threads.)
- FDSGSG 7y ago
  The way you repeatedly suggest that VC was threatening others is bordering on defamatory.
ulope 7y ago
Funnily enough it does: https://www.kostenlose-urteile.de/LG-Nuernberg-Fuerth_13-S-872894_Hausrecht-ist-ein-notwehrfaehiges-Rechtsgut.news2971.htm https://www.kostenlose-urteile.de/LG-Nuernberg-Fuerth_13-S-8...

cannedslime 7y ago

He wasn't being an idiot. If you were literate, you would have snupped out the fact that he was told to write an "im sorry for having a different opinion" essay in order to attend, which he didn't. Why should he... Having an opinion is not a crime. Also he was clearly physically assaulted by a bunch of teenagers who obviously isn't up to snuff when it comes to performing security detail. Having untrained security personel manhandle other attendants looks really bad no matter how you look at it.