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In some ways Photoshop is losing relevance in the creative space. Adobe’s rent seeking has pissed off a lot of people and upstarts like Krita, DaVinci Resolve a

by knolan 7y ago

In some ways Photoshop is losing relevance in the creative space. Adobe’s rent seeking has pissed off a lot of people and upstarts like Krita, DaVinci Resolve and Serif are making waves. Affinity Photo and Designer offer strong Photoshop and Illustrator alternatives on MacOS, Windows and even iPadOS (no plans for a Linux version however) when Adobe seem to struggle to get a half baked version of Photoshop on iPadOS. All this competition is great. We’re seeing new performant software run rings around the lumbering giants. I’m a huge fan of blender. It boggles my mind how small a footprint it has compared to other 3D applications.

omnimus 7y ago
Its really a shame Affinity products are not on linux. I know lot of people who would ditch osx if there was decent typesetting software on linux.
prepend 7y ago
Photoshop still doesn’t work on Catalina, after three months of release and many months of early dev release. I hope someone is able to replace them for photo processing.
- mattl 7y ago
  I remember Steve Jobs trying to convince developers to make a Photoshop for Rhapsody because Adobe hasn’t signed on to make it.
- wartron 7y ago
  > If anyone else has this issue that states: "the installer was damaged and may need to be downloaded again" I got around this by right clicking the installer and showing package contents > contents > MacOS and clicking on the install file found there Have you tried this? I have CC 2019 installed on Catalina.
  - prepend 7y ago
    I’m dealing with the workarounds and have it running. But what I find interesting is that photoshop is one of the biggest software packages and they are out OA sync with Apple.
    - jungletek 7y ago
      This is Adobe we're talking about, their video editor can't handle multiple audio streams in standard video formats and codecs (think game capture footage with game audio and microphone on separate channels), in fucking 2019. It can tell there's multiple streams, but it doesn't detect the sizes of any of them past the first one, and won't let you use them as-is; you need to extract them from the video container and import them as audio files and manually sync them to the timeline. And some people suggest I'm supposed to feel guilty for pirating their stuff. Hah.
- zimpenfish 7y ago
  Strange, I've had Photoshop CC2019 running fine with no issues and I've been on Catalina since the very first dev release. CC2020 is also now working fine. Truly software is the most fickle of beasts.
  - prepend 7y ago
    Here’s adobe’s posting stating the issues [0]: > Which Photoshop versions are compatible with macOS Catalina? > Photoshop 21.0 & Photoshop 20.0.7 work with macOS 10.15 (Catalina) but have these known compatibility issues. You may want to remain on your current version of macOS until these issues have been resolved. [0] last updated dec 12 https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/kb/photoshop-and-macos-catalina.html https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/kb/photoshop-and-macos-cat...
duxup 7y ago
Lightroom is still irreplaceable so far for me and photography.
- e40 7y ago
  I would move from macOS to Linux as soon as there is a LR equivalent.
  - xbhdhdhd 7y ago
    Darktable
    - hellozee 7y ago
      Not only Darktable but Darktable paired with digiKam, :)
    - e40 7y ago
      I looked at it. Seriously, not even close to LR.
      - Semiapies 7y ago
        Pretty much the case for Linux boosterism outside the command line. Almost every desktop app is a shoddy imitation of a commercial app, pushed by people who often don't know the real apps. And if you point the shortcomings out, they whine that the shoddy app is only built by three guys and so it's unfair to judge it...
- bscphil 7y ago
  I've been shocked how good the results I been able to get with RawTherapee are. It's extremely buggy, or was when I was last using it regularly, but it's capable of replicating or exceeding anything you can get with Lightroom except for Lightroom's profiled corrections (denoising / defringing) and the (limited) content aware editing features Lightroom has. The distinction is basically in ease of use. What I've found is that Lightroom has a bunch of linear sliders that take you mostly through the range of what looks "good" photographically. You'll want to adjust contrast (for example) and each position of the slider will look good in its own way (though the end points obviously top out looking silly). RawTherapee has a lot more multi-dimensional editing modes, and the vast majority of options in this multi-dimensional space make no sense at all photographically. The way Lightroom is programmed you basically get a little less control, but more expressivity, because when you change a slider the image tends to accurately reflect what you actually wanted the photograph to look like. Lightroom feels kind of magical like that, whereas you have to put in the hard work in RawTherapee. But it is quite usable, when it doesn't crash or fail to read your DNGs.

by knolan 7y ago

omnimus 7y ago

Its really a shame Affinity products are not on linux. I know lot of people who would ditch osx if there was decent typesetting software on linux.

prepend 7y ago

Photoshop still doesn’t work on Catalina, after three months of release and many months of early dev release. I hope someone is able to replace them for photo processing.

mattl 7y ago
I remember Steve Jobs trying to convince developers to make a Photoshop for Rhapsody because Adobe hasn’t signed on to make it.
wartron 7y ago
> If anyone else has this issue that states: "the installer was damaged and may need to be downloaded again" I got around this by right clicking the installer and showing package contents > contents > MacOS and clicking on the install file found there Have you tried this? I have CC 2019 installed on Catalina.
- prepend 7y ago
  I’m dealing with the workarounds and have it running. But what I find interesting is that photoshop is one of the biggest software packages and they are out OA sync with Apple.
  - jungletek 7y ago
    This is Adobe we're talking about, their video editor can't handle multiple audio streams in standard video formats and codecs (think game capture footage with game audio and microphone on separate channels), in fucking 2019. It can tell there's multiple streams, but it doesn't detect the sizes of any of them past the first one, and won't let you use them as-is; you need to extract them from the video container and import them as audio files and manually sync them to the timeline. And some people suggest I'm supposed to feel guilty for pirating their stuff. Hah.
zimpenfish 7y ago
Strange, I've had Photoshop CC2019 running fine with no issues and I've been on Catalina since the very first dev release. CC2020 is also now working fine. Truly software is the most fickle of beasts.
- prepend 7y ago
  Here’s adobe’s posting stating the issues [0]: > Which Photoshop versions are compatible with macOS Catalina? > Photoshop 21.0 & Photoshop 20.0.7 work with macOS 10.15 (Catalina) but have these known compatibility issues. You may want to remain on your current version of macOS until these issues have been resolved. [0] last updated dec 12 https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/kb/photoshop-and-macos-catalina.html https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/kb/photoshop-and-macos-cat...

duxup 7y ago

Lightroom is still irreplaceable so far for me and photography.

e40 7y ago
I would move from macOS to Linux as soon as there is a LR equivalent.
- xbhdhdhd 7y ago
  Darktable
  - hellozee 7y ago
    Not only Darktable but Darktable paired with digiKam, :)
  - e40 7y ago
    I looked at it. Seriously, not even close to LR.
    - Semiapies 7y ago
      Pretty much the case for Linux boosterism outside the command line. Almost every desktop app is a shoddy imitation of a commercial app, pushed by people who often don't know the real apps. And if you point the shortcomings out, they whine that the shoddy app is only built by three guys and so it's unfair to judge it...
bscphil 7y ago
I've been shocked how good the results I been able to get with RawTherapee are. It's extremely buggy, or was when I was last using it regularly, but it's capable of replicating or exceeding anything you can get with Lightroom except for Lightroom's profiled corrections (denoising / defringing) and the (limited) content aware editing features Lightroom has. The distinction is basically in ease of use. What I've found is that Lightroom has a bunch of linear sliders that take you mostly through the range of what looks "good" photographically. You'll want to adjust contrast (for example) and each position of the slider will look good in its own way (though the end points obviously top out looking silly). RawTherapee has a lot more multi-dimensional editing modes, and the vast majority of options in this multi-dimensional space make no sense at all photographically. The way Lightroom is programmed you basically get a little less control, but more expressivity, because when you change a slider the image tends to accurately reflect what you actually wanted the photograph to look like. Lightroom feels kind of magical like that, whereas you have to put in the hard work in RawTherapee. But it is quite usable, when it doesn't crash or fail to read your DNGs.