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You're jumping to conclusions. I often asked for raises and tried to negotiate. I quit companies several times after they failed to promote me or they failed to

You're jumping to conclusions. I often asked for raises and tried to negotiate. I quit companies several times after they failed to promote me or they failed to give me a raise. I'm pretty sure it has nothing to do with business skills. Just bad luck. My last boss was so upset when I told him I was thinking of quitting that, in front of the whole company, he threatened to throw me out of the window but then he apologized multiple times and asked me to come back after he regained his composure (I had a lot of leverage at the time)... But I quit the next day to save face and find better opportunities. This company had tons of money (millions to spend on development) but they wouldn't give me a 10% modest salary increase after 2 years of excellent work. That's the kind of irrational people I worked for. There was no indication they were going to be like this when I joined. You only find out about this stuff after several years and then you already wasted your time and have to start again at a new company and hope that your next employer will be fair or rational at the very least.

itronitron 7y ago
Larger and older companies tend to have much more structured and consistently positive annual salary adjustments. You should try to find one of those before you turn 35.
turk73 7y ago
It won't be any different anywhere else. You're a whore, I'm a whore. Get used to it or get out.
incompleteness 7y ago
You're taking my comment in bad faith. I claim nowhere that you don't negotiate, I claim you do it badly and point to the area of knowledge that is required to change that. It's bad pedagogy to even acknowledge you playing the victim card, that's your psychological issue and I'm not about to play therapist to a stranger. Edit: thanks for the negativity I suppose, I'll make sure you profit from my advice in no shape or form as requested.
- dang 7y ago
  Would you please stop posting in the flamewar style to HN? You've done it quite a bit already, and it's the opposite of the spirit we're going for here, so we actually ban accounts that do it. If you'd please read the site guidelines and follow them when posting to HN, we'd be grateful. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

itronitron 7y ago

Larger and older companies tend to have much more structured and consistently positive annual salary adjustments. You should try to find one of those before you turn 35.

turk73 7y ago

It won't be any different anywhere else. You're a whore, I'm a whore. Get used to it or get out.

incompleteness 7y ago

You're taking my comment in bad faith. I claim nowhere that you don't negotiate, I claim you do it badly and point to the area of knowledge that is required to change that. It's bad pedagogy to even acknowledge you playing the victim card, that's your psychological issue and I'm not about to play therapist to a stranger. Edit: thanks for the negativity I suppose, I'll make sure you profit from my advice in no shape or form as requested.

dang 7y ago
Would you please stop posting in the flamewar style to HN? You've done it quite a bit already, and it's the opposite of the spirit we're going for here, so we actually ban accounts that do it. If you'd please read the site guidelines and follow them when posting to HN, we'd be grateful. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html