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I don't have a magic solution but I would like to add few thoughts: 1. Homeless people destroy environment and don't practice sanitation on the same level (non

I don't have a magic solution but I would like to add few thoughts: 1. Homeless people destroy environment and don't practice sanitation on the same level (non homeless folks) That imo is true and we shouldn't ignore it. But why? I have a few explanation depending on the place so it's not an apply all hammer, alcohol & drug abuse/mental illness are one of the reasons why there are homeless in big rich cities (combined with other) but wouldn't that cause itself will lead to people caring less about environment and things that don't directly affect them? When was the last time you were depressed and wanted to hole up in your bed doing nothing? Consider that and with not a good overall health condition, lacking empathy (of course why would they for the society that failed them), poverty mindset and resource constraints with no hope for a brighter future. It's a self destructive mindset. Oh to make it more suitable for HN in analogy, think of those anti homeless spikes as walled garden of the big companies. Imessage? Yeah, you can't connect with your friends anymore after you can't afford an iPhone. Maybe you contributed to society in tax and other spheres and now you can't anymore, you don't deserve whatever crumbles are left there. Of course I am exaggerating. 2. Throw money at them and it will go away. I hope that worked, I really do but that doesn't solve any of the problems. US puts a lot of money more than countries with free healthcare (controlled for population but not size) yet people aren't getting it. The system is dysfunctional or benefits some people more than others due to lack of awareness, discrimination (advertising towards one gender or race is an example), collective empathy, and tendency to put pressure on your career/home/bank as an identity. Maybe those homeless shelters are far away. I don't know but why blame anyone without any evidence or data on those things.

thrwaway69 7y ago
I think we can employee homeless people with the money spent on 'solving' the problem for cleaning and maintaining our environment. They get a job and maybe they can afford some housing now or make free housing structures for those employees.
mnm1 7y ago
CEOs who afaik are 100% not homeless destroy the environment to such an extent as to make what all the homeless in the US destroy seem insignificant and inconsequential. They too lack empathy and have a destructive mindset. I say we address this much more massive problem first and the homeless problem will likely be solved by our actions.
- thrwaway69 7y ago
  Yeah, carbon emission tax or other similar taxation can be used more effectively, I guess. Raising taxes for luxury that are not providing anything but a way to brag should be heavily taxed into oblivion. I wish we could have something like pollution emission credit, the higher your credit. The more percentage of income/wealth you have to pay but that is unenforceable, actionable and will go against human rights to track.

thrwaway69 7y ago

I think we can employee homeless people with the money spent on 'solving' the problem for cleaning and maintaining our environment. They get a job and maybe they can afford some housing now or make free housing structures for those employees.

mnm1 7y ago

CEOs who afaik are 100% not homeless destroy the environment to such an extent as to make what all the homeless in the US destroy seem insignificant and inconsequential. They too lack empathy and have a destructive mindset. I say we address this much more massive problem first and the homeless problem will likely be solved by our actions.

thrwaway69 7y ago
Yeah, carbon emission tax or other similar taxation can be used more effectively, I guess. Raising taxes for luxury that are not providing anything but a way to brag should be heavily taxed into oblivion. I wish we could have something like pollution emission credit, the higher your credit. The more percentage of income/wealth you have to pay but that is unenforceable, actionable and will go against human rights to track.