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How so?

samstave 7y ago
For me, as I got older, lost passion for what I had been doing for 20 years - and being on the old end of the ageism-specrum-stick... it is hard to deal with. I have left 'Silicon Valley Tech' -- as I am no longer interested in any of the things I did before and seek positions which are more fulfilling in other industries and pay about 25% of what I used to make...
- momokoko 7y ago
  I am in exactly the same boat. Could not have said it better myself.
  - turk73 7y ago
    Me too, but I need help. I have been working on ideas for my "2nd career," well, really it will be my 3rd, but that's beside the point. I need a way out of tech. I have enough money already, I just need a freaking path to another kind of work. It's not been easy. It's either I do what I am doing or it's $15/hr Target cashier type of job. Not bashing the Target cashiers, just making a point.
    - AlexCoventry 7y ago
      If you have enough money, why restrict yourself to gainful employment?
    - cerberusss 7y ago
      Have you thought about entrepreneurship? Building a product? That's normally fairly risky, but it seems to me that it's entirely worth a shot if your wealth provides the basic necessities.
- beyondkaoru 7y ago
  What sorts of industries or positions are you currently working in or seeking?
  - momokoko 7y ago
    There is a comment that replied to mine that is now dead but is fairy accurate for me as I do not have a college degree. I’ve been able to some what transition to a technician/mechanic path but I make barely enough to support myself without kids or any other expenses. I have found myself in many ways much happier with my work, but the instability and low wages definitely add stress at times. Unfortunately, I have found few opportunities where my many years of software development experience mean much to potential employers outside of the industry. Of course this is very anecdotal.
- 2sk21 7y ago
  I have a PhD in machine learning and have had a fairly productive career now spanning almost thirty years. Even a few years ago, I used think that I would keep at it indefinitely. Lately however, I'm finding that the field simply just does not interest me as much as it used to. Contributing to this is the knowledge that I am financially independent - I just don't need to work at this point. I'm planning to quit later this year and spend more time on hobbies and studying cognitive science on my own.
  - Winterflow3r 7y ago
    Can I ask why you are not interested in the field anymore? It seems to be having a major, major renaissance at the moment.
    - 2sk21 7y ago
      Gary Marcus has articulated it much better than I could in his new book with Ernie Davis: https://www.amazon.com/Rebooting-AI-Building-Artificial-Intelligence/dp/1524748250/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2WCI49LDM5A62&keywords=gary+marcus+rebooting+ai&qid=1578057821&sprefix=gary+marcus%2Caps%2C129&sr=8-1 https://www.amazon.com/Rebooting-AI-Building-Artificial-Inte... I really dislike the single minded focus on deep learning to the exclusion of everything else.
- kerng 7y ago
  What I struggle with is the issue of health insurance. What are really the options of safety when chasing your post-tech dreams? That risk and uncertainty is what keeps me from moving on with just taking a few years to try something else. Just the other day I met an artist, 50 years old, he currently plans take multiple years of to travel the world and make and display art - just like that.
  - war1025 7y ago
    If you have very little income, health insurance actually becomes affordable. The trouble comes when you make enough not to qualify for subsidies but work for an employer that isn't large enough to negotiate good rates.
Winterflow3r 7y ago
Threw myself head first into 80+ hour weeks of work, career climbing etc to avoid dealing with issues (incl. some trauma) I had since childhood. Told myself I'd be "married to my work", because while people leave you, money lasts longer. Gained some modest success, but woke up after 5+ years to the realisation that no matter how much I worked, none of the success, money or appreciation from peers would ever feel whatever void/emotional avoidance I had inside and was trying to mask by marrying myself to my work. By this time, I had a severe eating disorder and probably some sort of severe burnout.
- abj 7y ago
  Thank you for sharing. If you don't mind me asking, what helped after you had the realization?

How so?

For me, as I got older, lost passion for what I had been doing for 20 years - and being on the old end of the ageism-specrum-stick... it is hard to deal with. I have left 'Silicon Valley Tech' -- as I am no longer interested in any of the things I did before and seek positions which are more fulfilling in other industries and pay about 25% of what I used to make...

momokoko 7y ago
I am in exactly the same boat. Could not have said it better myself.
- turk73 7y ago
  Me too, but I need help. I have been working on ideas for my "2nd career," well, really it will be my 3rd, but that's beside the point. I need a way out of tech. I have enough money already, I just need a freaking path to another kind of work. It's not been easy. It's either I do what I am doing or it's $15/hr Target cashier type of job. Not bashing the Target cashiers, just making a point.
  - AlexCoventry 7y ago
    If you have enough money, why restrict yourself to gainful employment?
  - cerberusss 7y ago
    Have you thought about entrepreneurship? Building a product? That's normally fairly risky, but it seems to me that it's entirely worth a shot if your wealth provides the basic necessities.
beyondkaoru 7y ago
What sorts of industries or positions are you currently working in or seeking?
- momokoko 7y ago
  There is a comment that replied to mine that is now dead but is fairy accurate for me as I do not have a college degree. I’ve been able to some what transition to a technician/mechanic path but I make barely enough to support myself without kids or any other expenses. I have found myself in many ways much happier with my work, but the instability and low wages definitely add stress at times. Unfortunately, I have found few opportunities where my many years of software development experience mean much to potential employers outside of the industry. Of course this is very anecdotal.
2sk21 7y ago
I have a PhD in machine learning and have had a fairly productive career now spanning almost thirty years. Even a few years ago, I used think that I would keep at it indefinitely. Lately however, I'm finding that the field simply just does not interest me as much as it used to. Contributing to this is the knowledge that I am financially independent - I just don't need to work at this point. I'm planning to quit later this year and spend more time on hobbies and studying cognitive science on my own.
- Winterflow3r 7y ago
  Can I ask why you are not interested in the field anymore? It seems to be having a major, major renaissance at the moment.
  - 2sk21 7y ago
    Gary Marcus has articulated it much better than I could in his new book with Ernie Davis: https://www.amazon.com/Rebooting-AI-Building-Artificial-Intelligence/dp/1524748250/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2WCI49LDM5A62&keywords=gary+marcus+rebooting+ai&qid=1578057821&sprefix=gary+marcus%2Caps%2C129&sr=8-1 https://www.amazon.com/Rebooting-AI-Building-Artificial-Inte... I really dislike the single minded focus on deep learning to the exclusion of everything else.
kerng 7y ago
What I struggle with is the issue of health insurance. What are really the options of safety when chasing your post-tech dreams? That risk and uncertainty is what keeps me from moving on with just taking a few years to try something else. Just the other day I met an artist, 50 years old, he currently plans take multiple years of to travel the world and make and display art - just like that.
- war1025 7y ago
  If you have very little income, health insurance actually becomes affordable. The trouble comes when you make enough not to qualify for subsidies but work for an employer that isn't large enough to negotiate good rates.

Winterflow3r 7y ago

Threw myself head first into 80+ hour weeks of work, career climbing etc to avoid dealing with issues (incl. some trauma) I had since childhood. Told myself I'd be "married to my work", because while people leave you, money lasts longer. Gained some modest success, but woke up after 5+ years to the realisation that no matter how much I worked, none of the success, money or appreciation from peers would ever feel whatever void/emotional avoidance I had inside and was trying to mask by marrying myself to my work. By this time, I had a severe eating disorder and probably some sort of severe burnout.

abj 7y ago
Thank you for sharing. If you don't mind me asking, what helped after you had the realization?