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He had a fair trial for the crime of jumping bail, and has been jailed for it.

by jpz 7y ago

sp332 7y ago
Ok but he was not sentenced to this.
- rbobby 7y ago
  Assange doesn't qualify for bail (he is a flight risk/certainty) so he stays in custody until the hearings are done. Made his bed and now has to lie in it.
  - Synaesthesia 7y ago
    He reported the truth. It’s an extraordinary trial this.
    - rbobby 7y ago
      > He reported the truth. It’s an extraordinary trial this. It's extradition hearings not a trail. Extraditions are pretty common, the statistics I found seem to indicate roughly 1,000 requests per year with about 50% being successful (https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/117673/extradition-review.pdf https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/...)
  - einpoklum 7y ago
    Bail? For what? He has not committed any offense for which he should be held in custody under UK law. And the extradition should not have been considered, since the UK official doesn't extradite for charges of political offenses.
nicehat 7y ago
How exactly did you come to the conclusion that his trial was fair? The only coverage I've seen of the trial, which has been remarkably quiet, alleges extreme US interference: https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2019/10/assange-in-court/ https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2019/10/assange-in-c... Jullian's father is going around the world telling people how brutally corrupt this all is, and how he fears for his son's life. The UN Special Rapporteur on Torture agrees with him: https://medium.com/@njmelzer/demasking-the-torture-of-julian-assange-b252ffdcb768 https://medium.com/@njmelzer/demasking-the-torture-of-julian....
- spzb 7y ago
  It was an open and shut case. He was bailed to appear in court. He didn’t appear in court but hid for several years out of the court’s jurisdiction.
  - iblamedang 7y ago
    It was for very clear reasons that he avoided bail; because he didn’t want to get extradited - which all along the US and UK called a conspiracy theory, and which then happened the minute a more bribable Ecuadorian government got in. What’s your opinion on the Spanish company putting streaming cameras in the women’s bathroom to spy on his lawyers conversations? Is that supposed to have no connection to this “open and shut” case?
- NovemberWhiskey 7y ago
  The top link, which is the only one that addresses court proceedings, is nothing to do with his bail jumping case at all - it's about the US extradition. Just from a timeline perspective this is obvious: his conviction was back in May; this article is from October.
  - nicehat 7y ago
    The US extradition which was categorically denied for years? Ah, I see. > The UK remains in violation of a United Nations decision from 2016 that Mr. Assange is being subjected to Arbitrary Detention [1]. The UK government refuses to release most of its internal communications relating to Mr. Assange saying that to do so would compromise the United Kingdom’s national security and diplomatic relations. [1] https://justice4assange.com/UN-Working-Group-Decision.html https://justice4assange.com/UN-Working-Group-Decision.html
    - NovemberWhiskey 7y ago
      >The US extradition which was categorically denied for years? Ah, I see. Should we assume from the sudden change in topic that you now agree that the trial for an offense under the UK's Bail Act was, in fact, fair (or at the very least that there doesn't seem to be any evidence to the contrary)? FYI UNGWAD is not a judicial body; its opinions (not decisions) have no binding force whatsoever.

He had a fair trial for the crime of jumping bail, and has been jailed for it.

by jpz 7y ago

He had a fair trial for the crime of jumping bail, and has been jailed for it.

sp332 7y ago

Ok but he was not sentenced to this.

rbobby 7y ago
Assange doesn't qualify for bail (he is a flight risk/certainty) so he stays in custody until the hearings are done. Made his bed and now has to lie in it.
- Synaesthesia 7y ago
  He reported the truth. It’s an extraordinary trial this.
  - rbobby 7y ago
    > He reported the truth. It’s an extraordinary trial this. It's extradition hearings not a trail. Extraditions are pretty common, the statistics I found seem to indicate roughly 1,000 requests per year with about 50% being successful (https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/117673/extradition-review.pdf https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/...)
- einpoklum 7y ago
  Bail? For what? He has not committed any offense for which he should be held in custody under UK law. And the extradition should not have been considered, since the UK official doesn't extradite for charges of political offenses.

nicehat 7y ago

How exactly did you come to the conclusion that his trial was fair? The only coverage I've seen of the trial, which has been remarkably quiet, alleges extreme US interference: https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2019/10/assange-in-court/ https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2019/10/assange-in-c... Jullian's father is going around the world telling people how brutally corrupt this all is, and how he fears for his son's life. The UN Special Rapporteur on Torture agrees with him: https://medium.com/@njmelzer/demasking-the-torture-of-julian-assange-b252ffdcb768 https://medium.com/@njmelzer/demasking-the-torture-of-julian....

spzb 7y ago
It was an open and shut case. He was bailed to appear in court. He didn’t appear in court but hid for several years out of the court’s jurisdiction.
- iblamedang 7y ago
  It was for very clear reasons that he avoided bail; because he didn’t want to get extradited - which all along the US and UK called a conspiracy theory, and which then happened the minute a more bribable Ecuadorian government got in. What’s your opinion on the Spanish company putting streaming cameras in the women’s bathroom to spy on his lawyers conversations? Is that supposed to have no connection to this “open and shut” case?
NovemberWhiskey 7y ago
The top link, which is the only one that addresses court proceedings, is nothing to do with his bail jumping case at all - it's about the US extradition. Just from a timeline perspective this is obvious: his conviction was back in May; this article is from October.
- nicehat 7y ago
  The US extradition which was categorically denied for years? Ah, I see. > The UK remains in violation of a United Nations decision from 2016 that Mr. Assange is being subjected to Arbitrary Detention [1]. The UK government refuses to release most of its internal communications relating to Mr. Assange saying that to do so would compromise the United Kingdom’s national security and diplomatic relations. [1] https://justice4assange.com/UN-Working-Group-Decision.html https://justice4assange.com/UN-Working-Group-Decision.html
  - NovemberWhiskey 7y ago
    >The US extradition which was categorically denied for years? Ah, I see. Should we assume from the sudden change in topic that you now agree that the trial for an offense under the UK's Bail Act was, in fact, fair (or at the very least that there doesn't seem to be any evidence to the contrary)? FYI UNGWAD is not a judicial body; its opinions (not decisions) have no binding force whatsoever.