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Maybe they are trying to counter the default anti Indian narrative of most western media outlets which sometimes takes an ugly embarrassing form https://www.bb

Maybe they are trying to counter the default anti Indian narrative of most western media outlets which sometimes takes an ugly embarrassing form https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-29502062 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-29502062

15__characters 7y ago
> the default anti Indian narrative That's ONE negative cartoon, and even that only if you call the author with his stated intentions a liar. If I scoured Indian media, would I find at least ONE negative cartoon about "the West" or whatever, I wonder? If so, this naturally would justify any volume of attempts to interfere with Indian democracy.
kranner 7y ago
What "default anti Indian narrative"? Also, the cartoon you've linked to doesn't seem anti-Indian at all. I get that people complained, but it's a cartoon: quite a gentle one at that.
- kobiguru 7y ago
  here this should help you get a pretty good picture of BBC's Anti-India bias. From "Historical Journal of Film, Radio and Television" published in 2008. https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/01439680802310324?journalCode=chjf20 https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/0143968080231032...
  - kranner 7y ago
    Paywall. The first page, which is the only page I can access, says this is regarding an event dated 29 August 1970. First, that's fifty years ago so do you have something newer? Second, this seems to be about the 1975-1977 period when Indira Gandhi expelled all foreign journalists and jailed more than 250 Indian journalists [1] and politicians from the opposition and suspended elections by declaring an Emergency. The BBC was expelled in 1970 as well for broadcasting Louis Malle's documentary Phantom India [2] which showed Indian slums and depicting India in a bad light internationally. They were later invited back in 1972. Since the same allegations are levelled today at movies like Slumdog Millionaire, all this proves is that a) we still have slums in India, and b) we are still sensitive to criticism. [1] https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/when-media-was-muzzled-history-retold-1304069-2018-08-03 https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/when-media-was-muzzled... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phantom_India https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phantom_India
    - sampo 7y ago
      > Paywall It's a scientific journal. The article is available in sci-hub.
      - kranner 7y ago
        Thanks, found it. There was a very entertaining Mario Miranda cartoon in it that I hadn't seen before. I daresay it could have been viewed as a very anti-India cartoon today.
- shi314 7y ago
  Reuters Report about crimes against women showed how anti indian western media is.
  - kranner 7y ago
    Unless these crimes didn't really happen, Reuters is doing their job.
  - thewhitetulip 7y ago
    When stats provided by government show that India is unsafest for woman I hardly see the "anti India" bias
    - thrwaway69 7y ago
      Source? 'unsafest' relative to which countries? Edit: btw I am not saying India is safe by any measure. The official statistics released by government doesn't match with what you say, be it propaganda, reality or just lack of significant funding into researching these stuff. Without insightful data, how do you plan to combat anything? 'Growing' rape rates has been used as an excuse to form internet surveillance, censorship (porn ban? adult themed movies?) and other faucet of life. Did that reduce rape rates? Rapes are increasing? Why? What is happening in a developing country that makes it more vulnerable to rape cases if its true?
  - throwawaysea 7y ago
    This comment is 100% correct. Media selection bias is real, and the international focus drawn upon a couple incidents of rape a few years ago was disproportionate for lone anecdotes, which is what makes the bias against India in western media apparent. Per https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_in_India https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_in_India > India has been characterised as one of the "countries with the lowest per capita rates of rape".
threwre423432 7y ago
I'm surprised you haven't been downvoted to oblivion yet. The deplorable 'Hindu' is looked down everywhere from the Western academia, to the Indian constitution.
- kranner 7y ago
  The Constitution of India looks down on Hindus? Can you explain what you mean or cite some relevant passages from the Constitution of India?
  - thewhitetulip 7y ago
    You see, the BJP troll army has descended on HN. They are all creating new accounts to spread their agenda. Their agenda = BJP good. Everyone else bad & everyone else is "anti Modi anti India anti Hindu pro Christian, pro Muslim Pro Pakistan" (The last line is exactly what they say on social media)
dtwest 7y ago
For what it's worth, the cartoonist, Heng Kim Song, is Singaporean. American coverage of India's space program has been very positive from what I have seen. If often includes praises of how cost effective it has been, and how wasteful the recent American efforts have been.

15__characters 7y ago

> the default anti Indian narrative That's ONE negative cartoon, and even that only if you call the author with his stated intentions a liar. If I scoured Indian media, would I find at least ONE negative cartoon about "the West" or whatever, I wonder? If so, this naturally would justify any volume of attempts to interfere with Indian democracy.

kranner 7y ago

What "default anti Indian narrative"? Also, the cartoon you've linked to doesn't seem anti-Indian at all. I get that people complained, but it's a cartoon: quite a gentle one at that.

kobiguru 7y ago
here this should help you get a pretty good picture of BBC's Anti-India bias. From "Historical Journal of Film, Radio and Television" published in 2008. https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/01439680802310324?journalCode=chjf20 https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/0143968080231032...
- kranner 7y ago
  Paywall. The first page, which is the only page I can access, says this is regarding an event dated 29 August 1970. First, that's fifty years ago so do you have something newer? Second, this seems to be about the 1975-1977 period when Indira Gandhi expelled all foreign journalists and jailed more than 250 Indian journalists [1] and politicians from the opposition and suspended elections by declaring an Emergency. The BBC was expelled in 1970 as well for broadcasting Louis Malle's documentary Phantom India [2] which showed Indian slums and depicting India in a bad light internationally. They were later invited back in 1972. Since the same allegations are levelled today at movies like Slumdog Millionaire, all this proves is that a) we still have slums in India, and b) we are still sensitive to criticism. [1] https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/when-media-was-muzzled-history-retold-1304069-2018-08-03 https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/when-media-was-muzzled... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phantom_India https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phantom_India
  - sampo 7y ago
    > Paywall It's a scientific journal. The article is available in sci-hub.
    - kranner 7y ago
      Thanks, found it. There was a very entertaining Mario Miranda cartoon in it that I hadn't seen before. I daresay it could have been viewed as a very anti-India cartoon today.
shi314 7y ago
Reuters Report about crimes against women showed how anti indian western media is.
- kranner 7y ago
  Unless these crimes didn't really happen, Reuters is doing their job.
- thewhitetulip 7y ago
  When stats provided by government show that India is unsafest for woman I hardly see the "anti India" bias
  - thrwaway69 7y ago
    Source? 'unsafest' relative to which countries? Edit: btw I am not saying India is safe by any measure. The official statistics released by government doesn't match with what you say, be it propaganda, reality or just lack of significant funding into researching these stuff. Without insightful data, how do you plan to combat anything? 'Growing' rape rates has been used as an excuse to form internet surveillance, censorship (porn ban? adult themed movies?) and other faucet of life. Did that reduce rape rates? Rapes are increasing? Why? What is happening in a developing country that makes it more vulnerable to rape cases if its true?
- throwawaysea 7y ago
  This comment is 100% correct. Media selection bias is real, and the international focus drawn upon a couple incidents of rape a few years ago was disproportionate for lone anecdotes, which is what makes the bias against India in western media apparent. Per https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_in_India https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_in_India > India has been characterised as one of the "countries with the lowest per capita rates of rape".

threwre423432 7y ago

I'm surprised you haven't been downvoted to oblivion yet. The deplorable 'Hindu' is looked down everywhere from the Western academia, to the Indian constitution.

kranner 7y ago
The Constitution of India looks down on Hindus? Can you explain what you mean or cite some relevant passages from the Constitution of India?
- thewhitetulip 7y ago
  You see, the BJP troll army has descended on HN. They are all creating new accounts to spread their agenda. Their agenda = BJP good. Everyone else bad & everyone else is "anti Modi anti India anti Hindu pro Christian, pro Muslim Pro Pakistan" (The last line is exactly what they say on social media)

dtwest 7y ago

For what it's worth, the cartoonist, Heng Kim Song, is Singaporean. American coverage of India's space program has been very positive from what I have seen. If often includes praises of how cost effective it has been, and how wasteful the recent American efforts have been.