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> knowing what the majority wants is still interesting. Totally agree. > Looking at the most voted option tells you what the majority thinks. My point is tha
by h1x 7y ago
> knowing what the majority wants is still interesting.
Totally agree.
> Looking at the most voted option tells you what the majority thinks.
My point is that the options are designed specifically for this type of voting system.
Here it is possible that anti-systemd votes are spread across many options and pro systemd votes are concentrated in only one or two. So even if you have most votes on "Focus on systemd" it doesn't mean that it is what most people want.
- Tuna-Fish 7y ago> Here it is possible that anti-systemd votes are spread across many options and pro systemd votes are concentrated in only one or two. So even if you have most votes on "Focus on systemd" it doesn't mean that it is what most people want. As I said in my above reply which you've ignored, that is not how the voting system works. It is not possible to split votes like that in Condorcet. Everyone who opposes systemd can vote for all of the non-systemd options and not diminish the chances of any of them.
- shawnz 7y agoThey are talking about the result of the majority vote, not the result of the Condorcet method.
- cyphar 7y agoThe result of the "majority vote" is done preferentially, which means that there is no situation in which vote splitting will occur. It makes no sense to refer to the "majority vote" in this context, because the whole point of preferential voting systems is that (usually) no option wins outright on first preferences alone. Thus the result of the Condorcet vote is the order which the maximum number of people would've been most happy with.
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- Tuna-Fish 7y agoDoesn't change anything. The ballot allows you to place all the options you support, in any order you prefer. Let's say I really oppose systemd and want it to lose. I could have voted: Option 6 Option 3 Option 5 Option 4 Option 7 Option 8 (FD) This would show on the majority vote as a vote for all of {63547}, and a vote against {12}. Vote splitting is not possible, even in the majority vote section.
- twic 7y agoAre people in this thread using "majority" where they should be using "plurality"?
- CameronNemo 7y agoYep. This thread is a clusterfuck. Still more work to do to educate people about ranked choice voting.
- dcow 7y agoYes I should have put “majority” in quotes. I was trying to use it in the way the post I was replying to used it which is more accurately as you describe.
- bandrami 7y agoArrow's theorem rises, shakes off the dust, and rides off to cause more havoc.