Whisper numbers are still totally around, but as buy-side expectations in my experience. I'd often field calls around earnings from investors who were trying to

Whisper numbers are still totally around, but as buy-side expectations in my experience. I'd often field calls around earnings from investors who were trying to understand what everyone else was expecting from earnings results. There would then be further debates about what numbers would be good enough, or what long-only investors were expecting vs. hedge funds.