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SCMP was created by "western" anti-chinese propagandists. "The journal was founded by Australian-born anti-Qing dynasty revolutionary Tse Tsan-tai and British

SCMP was created by "western" anti-chinese propagandists. "The journal was founded by Australian-born anti-Qing dynasty revolutionary Tse Tsan-tai and British journalist Alfred Cunningham" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_China_Morning_Post https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_China_Morning_Post It's strange you think it is something to be recommended pre-alibaba, but not something to be recommended post-alibaba.

closed 7y ago
How is Tse Tsan-tai a western, anti-chinese propagandist? He was a collaborator w/ Sun Yat-sen. I realize the two drew influence from western ideals (and christianity), but wonder what makes them anti-chinese. That the Chinese government praised Sun Yat-sen, and printed a commemorative coin for his 150th birthday, seems at odds with your sentiment. http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2016-10/25/content_27171381.htm http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2016-10/25/content_271713...
- elfexec 7y ago
  > How is Tse Tsan-tai a western, anti-chinese propagandist? "Born in Grafton, New South Wales, to a "patriotic" Chinese, Tse Yat-cheong (謝日昌), Tse Tsan-tai was baptised James See on 1 November 1879." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tse_Tsan-tai https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tse_Tsan-tai When I wrote anti-chinese, I meant at the time - qing china. And the SCMP was created by a british "journalist" and Tse specifically to push anti-chinese propaganda at that time. > That the Chinese government praised Sun Yat-sen, and printed a commemorative coin for his 150th birthday, seems at odds with your sentiment. Why? The CCP can choose to celebrate parts of sun yat-sen's legacy which aligns with their own ideology - especially the destruction of china's feudal system. Also, you can praise sun yat-sen as a larger part of reincorporating taiwan back to the mainland. We celebrate Robert E. Lee, does it make the US anti-US? Hell in the 1970s, the US celebrate Mao and Deng in order to grow our relationship. Doesn't make the US pro-communist.
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    > When I wrote anti-chinese, I meant at the time Ah, okay. I read your original post as critical of scmp as anti Chinese today, but am not sure if that's what you meant now.

closed 7y ago

How is Tse Tsan-tai a western, anti-chinese propagandist? He was a collaborator w/ Sun Yat-sen. I realize the two drew influence from western ideals (and christianity), but wonder what makes them anti-chinese. That the Chinese government praised Sun Yat-sen, and printed a commemorative coin for his 150th birthday, seems at odds with your sentiment. http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2016-10/25/content_27171381.htm http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2016-10/25/content_271713...

elfexec 7y ago
> How is Tse Tsan-tai a western, anti-chinese propagandist? "Born in Grafton, New South Wales, to a "patriotic" Chinese, Tse Yat-cheong (謝日昌), Tse Tsan-tai was baptised James See on 1 November 1879." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tse_Tsan-tai https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tse_Tsan-tai When I wrote anti-chinese, I meant at the time - qing china. And the SCMP was created by a british "journalist" and Tse specifically to push anti-chinese propaganda at that time. > That the Chinese government praised Sun Yat-sen, and printed a commemorative coin for his 150th birthday, seems at odds with your sentiment. Why? The CCP can choose to celebrate parts of sun yat-sen's legacy which aligns with their own ideology - especially the destruction of china's feudal system. Also, you can praise sun yat-sen as a larger part of reincorporating taiwan back to the mainland. We celebrate Robert E. Lee, does it make the US anti-US? Hell in the 1970s, the US celebrate Mao and Deng in order to grow our relationship. Doesn't make the US pro-communist.
- closed 7y ago
  > When I wrote anti-chinese, I meant at the time Ah, okay. I read your original post as critical of scmp as anti Chinese today, but am not sure if that's what you meant now.