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> Communists, anarchists, anti-imperialists, anti-germans. The only thing they have in common is that they all despise like the misanthropic tendencies of the r
by DoofusOfDeath 7y ago
> Communists, anarchists, anti-imperialists, anti-germans. The only thing they have in common is that they all despise like the misanthropic tendencies of the right.
Here's a working theory I'd love to discuss:
Having friends all over the political spectrum, I think some policy topics reveal differences in how most left-leaning / right-leaning people understand human nature.
My conservative friends generally hold that humans tend towards laziness and greed, and that any social policy which fails to consider that will fail before long. E.g., Marxism, UBI, or universal healthcare. From their perspective, liberals who advocate such policies are being stupid, short-sighted, and will ultimately cause more harm in the long-run. They see liberals as wanting to run experiments whose outcomes are predictably bad.
My liberal friends hold that because conservative policies accept the worse aspects of human nature as inevitable, they end up cementing the status quo, which is unacceptably bad. E.g., feudalism, Citizens United, etc. They see conservatives' unwillingness to change as (at best) heartless or (at worse) an evil self-serving power-grab.
In the end, each side finds the other's stated policy justifications so unbelievable, they conclude those public justifications are a just smokescreen for secret, nefarious purposes.
- k__ 7y agoI don't really know who is wrong or right. I don't like the base assumption of conservatives that "humans tend toward laziness and greed" as if it was a law of nature. I think the point is more that people want to get the most out of the system (money, meaning, fun, etc) with the least amount of work (they don't like to do) necessary. In the systems conservatives have in mind, the outlooks are so bleak that doing nothing and sitting at home seems like the logical next step when giving people an UBI or something. On the other hand I don't like the base assumption of leftists that capitalism and money is the root of all evil. Money is just a way to make "value" more tangible, the problem is that people simply don't value stuff that should be valued. This has nothing to do with capitalism or money, those are just the metrics that show what's wrong with our value systems.