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It hasn’t been around too long. In a few years it’ll probably be pretty competent at what it does. I don’t use it but that was certainly the trend with Apple M

by codyb 7y ago

It hasn’t been around too long. In a few years it’ll probably be pretty competent at what it does. I don’t use it but that was certainly the trend with Apple Maps which was pretty crummy when it first came out.

sbarre 7y ago
Apple Maps is still pretty far behind Google Maps. I don't have high hopes for News, given how much it keeps pushing features that are either user-unfriendly (giant ads in the middle of articles) or designed solely to push you to News+ I used to be a regular (many times a day) user and their changes have led me to stop using it entirely.
- Spooky23 7y ago
  Try it again. Apple Maps is pretty good. The love/hate thing is that it picks a more normal route vs optimized. I personally like it because I don’t find that a Google Maps optimizations help in urban settings.
- briandear 7y ago
  > Apple Maps is still pretty far behind Google Maps. Depends where you are, the Apple version of street view is far superior to Google’s.
  - Eric_WVGG 7y ago
    No bicycle navigation; a “walking route” will send you the wrong way up one-way streets, “auto route” onto unsafe highways. I wouldn’t care except their API for directions to AirPods or Apple Watch isn’t public. This is grounds for an antitrust suit imho...
  - sbarre 7y ago
    Anywhere other than a few major cities?
- catalogia 7y ago
  > Apple Maps is still pretty far behind Google Maps. Both fall well short of OSM for topics other than finding local businesses. OSM gives me incredible detail, even telling me where water fountains and benches are in the local park. Meanwhile Google Maps doesn't even recognize the restricted access road running through the park, let alone any of the walking trails, let alone any water fountains, benches, etc. If you can't drive a car on it or through it or to it, Google thinks it may as well not exist.
  - dragonwriter 7y ago
    > If you can't drive a car on it or through it or to it, Google thinks it may as well not exist. That may seem to be true some places, but I've seen many places (including around my house) where Google has great coverage of nameless walking and biking trails that aren't open to cars.
    - catalogia 7y ago
      Have you compared Google's and OSM's maps of those locations side by side? I wager OSM has much more detail. This is the case even for public parks located in the middle of major American west coast cities (where I would expect Google to have good coverage, if they had it anywhere.) Consider for instance this city park in Seattle: https://www.google.com/maps/@47.6397466,-122.2948284,18.95z https://www.google.com/maps/@47.6397466,-122.2948284,18.95z https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/47.63987/-122.29488&layers=N https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/47.63987/-122.29488&la... Google has gotten better in recent years, it now has a few of the walking trails, but compared to OSM it's still absolutely pitiful. Even in high profile locations like Yellowstone National Park, Google Maps is pitiful compared to OSM: https://www.google.com/maps/@44.3925569,-110.5541906,18z https://www.google.com/maps/@44.3925569,-110.5541906,18z https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/44.39273/-110.55472&layers=N https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/44.39273/-110.55472&la...
      - askbjoernhansen 7y ago
        Apple Maps seems to have comparable detail to OSM for that location ... https://maps.apple.com/?ll=44.39273,-110.55472&spn=0.003043,0.006653&t=m https://maps.apple.com/?ll=44.39273,-110.55472&spn=0.003043,... Or what do you see that the rest of us don't? :-)
nvrspyx 7y ago
It's been around since 2015. It shouldn't take 6+ years for a news aggregator app to become pretty competent. With its current model, it's already lost a lot of momentum (I don't know anyone that uses it) and will just continue to lose it, especially since its not a "necessary" utility or has as little competition as a maps/navigation app. In my opinion, it's more likely to be abandoned or maybe even transitioned into something else as Newsstand did when it became News than for it to become successful, especially since Apple is moving more and more to services.
saagarjha 7y ago
Remember iTunes/Music? I have little hope that it’ll get better.

by codyb 7y ago

sbarre 7y ago

Apple Maps is still pretty far behind Google Maps. I don't have high hopes for News, given how much it keeps pushing features that are either user-unfriendly (giant ads in the middle of articles) or designed solely to push you to News+ I used to be a regular (many times a day) user and their changes have led me to stop using it entirely.

Spooky23 7y ago
Try it again. Apple Maps is pretty good. The love/hate thing is that it picks a more normal route vs optimized. I personally like it because I don’t find that a Google Maps optimizations help in urban settings.
briandear 7y ago
> Apple Maps is still pretty far behind Google Maps. Depends where you are, the Apple version of street view is far superior to Google’s.
- Eric_WVGG 7y ago
  No bicycle navigation; a “walking route” will send you the wrong way up one-way streets, “auto route” onto unsafe highways. I wouldn’t care except their API for directions to AirPods or Apple Watch isn’t public. This is grounds for an antitrust suit imho...
- sbarre 7y ago
  Anywhere other than a few major cities?
catalogia 7y ago
> Apple Maps is still pretty far behind Google Maps. Both fall well short of OSM for topics other than finding local businesses. OSM gives me incredible detail, even telling me where water fountains and benches are in the local park. Meanwhile Google Maps doesn't even recognize the restricted access road running through the park, let alone any of the walking trails, let alone any water fountains, benches, etc. If you can't drive a car on it or through it or to it, Google thinks it may as well not exist.
- dragonwriter 7y ago
  > If you can't drive a car on it or through it or to it, Google thinks it may as well not exist. That may seem to be true some places, but I've seen many places (including around my house) where Google has great coverage of nameless walking and biking trails that aren't open to cars.
  - catalogia 7y ago
    Have you compared Google's and OSM's maps of those locations side by side? I wager OSM has much more detail. This is the case even for public parks located in the middle of major American west coast cities (where I would expect Google to have good coverage, if they had it anywhere.) Consider for instance this city park in Seattle: https://www.google.com/maps/@47.6397466,-122.2948284,18.95z https://www.google.com/maps/@47.6397466,-122.2948284,18.95z https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/47.63987/-122.29488&layers=N https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/47.63987/-122.29488&la... Google has gotten better in recent years, it now has a few of the walking trails, but compared to OSM it's still absolutely pitiful. Even in high profile locations like Yellowstone National Park, Google Maps is pitiful compared to OSM: https://www.google.com/maps/@44.3925569,-110.5541906,18z https://www.google.com/maps/@44.3925569,-110.5541906,18z https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/44.39273/-110.55472&layers=N https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/44.39273/-110.55472&la...
    - askbjoernhansen 7y ago
      Apple Maps seems to have comparable detail to OSM for that location ... https://maps.apple.com/?ll=44.39273,-110.55472&spn=0.003043,0.006653&t=m https://maps.apple.com/?ll=44.39273,-110.55472&spn=0.003043,... Or what do you see that the rest of us don't? :-)

nvrspyx 7y ago

It's been around since 2015. It shouldn't take 6+ years for a news aggregator app to become pretty competent. With its current model, it's already lost a lot of momentum (I don't know anyone that uses it) and will just continue to lose it, especially since its not a "necessary" utility or has as little competition as a maps/navigation app. In my opinion, it's more likely to be abandoned or maybe even transitioned into something else as Newsstand did when it became News than for it to become successful, especially since Apple is moving more and more to services.

saagarjha 7y ago

Remember iTunes/Music? I have little hope that it’ll get better.