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> Yet Hillary and Bernie are Marxists today. Huh? Not even a little bit. Neither one has quoted a single like of Marx, ever. Bernie identifies as a democratic

> Yet Hillary and Bernie are Marxists today. Huh? Not even a little bit. Neither one has quoted a single like of Marx, ever. Bernie identifies as a democratic socialist, which aint Marxist. The conflation is misinformed as hell.

itronitron 7y ago
I think hindsight's point is that they are perceived as such do their support for certain policies that benefit all US persons, not just employed white people.
hindsightbias 7y ago
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Rodham_senior_thesis https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Rodham_senior_thesis What more does a moderate need to know?
- shkkmo 7y ago
  Perhaps they might want to know what argument you are trying to make? It is not immediately clear from the link you posted. In what way does that thesis have anything to do with Marxism. If anything, it shows Hillary as a "work within the system" standard centrist liberal. Perhaps I am missing something?
- yongjik 7y ago
  > In 1969, $(person) wrote a 92-page senior thesis ... A real moderate would be immediately suspicious, regardless of political stance, of any claim that a thesis paper written 50 years ago was somehow relevant to the same person's current political position. Besides, I thought colleges were supposed to be a bastion of free ideas where people could say controversial opinions?
  - hindsightbias 7y ago
    What’s a real moderate? An on-purpose one or an accidental one? My take on PG’s point is that the vast majority of moderates are on-purpose, and those people are not going to be curious. An accidental one isn’t going to be a real moderate, except occasionally. Otherwise they’d be on-purpose.
- aspaceman 7y ago
  Do you have a point or just a pointless link? EDIT: Being associated with someone who at one point worked with communists 50 years ago makes you a modern day Marxist? Do these words mean anything to people anymore?

itronitron 7y ago

I think hindsight's point is that they are perceived as such do their support for certain policies that benefit all US persons, not just employed white people.

hindsightbias 7y ago

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Rodham_senior_thesis https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Rodham_senior_thesis What more does a moderate need to know?

shkkmo 7y ago
Perhaps they might want to know what argument you are trying to make? It is not immediately clear from the link you posted. In what way does that thesis have anything to do with Marxism. If anything, it shows Hillary as a "work within the system" standard centrist liberal. Perhaps I am missing something?
yongjik 7y ago
> In 1969, $(person) wrote a 92-page senior thesis ... A real moderate would be immediately suspicious, regardless of political stance, of any claim that a thesis paper written 50 years ago was somehow relevant to the same person's current political position. Besides, I thought colleges were supposed to be a bastion of free ideas where people could say controversial opinions?
- hindsightbias 7y ago
  What’s a real moderate? An on-purpose one or an accidental one? My take on PG’s point is that the vast majority of moderates are on-purpose, and those people are not going to be curious. An accidental one isn’t going to be a real moderate, except occasionally. Otherwise they’d be on-purpose.
aspaceman 7y ago
Do you have a point or just a pointless link? EDIT: Being associated with someone who at one point worked with communists 50 years ago makes you a modern day Marxist? Do these words mean anything to people anymore?