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This is incorrect, it is not a felony to record audio from a security camera in the US. Two party /all party consent only applies to confidential communications

This is incorrect, it is not a felony to record audio from a security camera in the US. Two party /all party consent only applies to confidential communications.

cryptonector 7y ago
If you're not a party to a conversation, then one-party rules don't apply. I.e., in one-party States you can record any conversation to which you are a party, but you can't eavesdrop on conversations that you're NOT a party to. This means you can't leave a microphone at a bus stop to record random conversations, say, not without a) owning the bus stop, and b) loudly announcing the presence of the microphone to all users of said bus stop. Replace "bus stop" with any public space. This also applies to private spaces as well, even when you're the owner. Thus you can have video surveillance at any office, but audio surveillance is generally a big no-no.
Spooky23 7y ago
I am not incorrect. Record audio at your peril: (This is re: New York) http://www.dmlp.org/forum/newsgathering-law/new-york-recording-public http://www.dmlp.org/forum/newsgathering-law/new-york-recordi... “...it is possible to violate the Wiretapping Act (and thereby commit a felony) by pointing a camera at a person speaking on a cell phone and creating an audio recording of part of the telephone conversation.” Recording audio is always fraught with risk. You should avoid it, especially in indoor locations that you do not control.
- gnopgnip 7y ago
  One party/all party consent laws only apply to confidential communications, or put another way private conversations, not anytime a phone is used. If you can only hear one person speaking, it is not a conversation. And even if you can hear both people, like if they were on speakerphone, someone talking on speakerphone in a public place is not having a "private" conversation.
- cesarb 7y ago
  Isn't recording video equivalent to recording audio, as long as a potato chip bag is in view? (https://arstechnica.com/science/2014/08/researchers-reconstruct-human-speech-by-recording-a-potato-chip-bag/ https://arstechnica.com/science/2014/08/researchers-reconstr...)
  - Spooky23 7y ago
    It’s a hard question because of the imprecision of the law. If it’s a potential problem, talk to counsel.
MertsA 7y ago
That depends on the state. In Florida, I had to put up notices that audio was being recorded in one room in order to hook up a microphone to a surveillance camera.

This is incorrect, it is not a felony to record audio from a security camera in the US. Two party /all party consent only applies to confidential communications.

cryptonector 7y ago

If you're not a party to a conversation, then one-party rules don't apply. I.e., in one-party States you can record any conversation to which you are a party, but you can't eavesdrop on conversations that you're NOT a party to. This means you can't leave a microphone at a bus stop to record random conversations, say, not without a) owning the bus stop, and b) loudly announcing the presence of the microphone to all users of said bus stop. Replace "bus stop" with any public space. This also applies to private spaces as well, even when you're the owner. Thus you can have video surveillance at any office, but audio surveillance is generally a big no-no.

Spooky23 7y ago

I am not incorrect. Record audio at your peril: (This is re: New York) http://www.dmlp.org/forum/newsgathering-law/new-york-recording-public http://www.dmlp.org/forum/newsgathering-law/new-york-recordi... “...it is possible to violate the Wiretapping Act (and thereby commit a felony) by pointing a camera at a person speaking on a cell phone and creating an audio recording of part of the telephone conversation.” Recording audio is always fraught with risk. You should avoid it, especially in indoor locations that you do not control.

gnopgnip 7y ago
One party/all party consent laws only apply to confidential communications, or put another way private conversations, not anytime a phone is used. If you can only hear one person speaking, it is not a conversation. And even if you can hear both people, like if they were on speakerphone, someone talking on speakerphone in a public place is not having a "private" conversation.
cesarb 7y ago
Isn't recording video equivalent to recording audio, as long as a potato chip bag is in view? (https://arstechnica.com/science/2014/08/researchers-reconstruct-human-speech-by-recording-a-potato-chip-bag/ https://arstechnica.com/science/2014/08/researchers-reconstr...)
- Spooky23 7y ago
  It’s a hard question because of the imprecision of the law. If it’s a potential problem, talk to counsel.

MertsA 7y ago

That depends on the state. In Florida, I had to put up notices that audio was being recorded in one room in order to hook up a microphone to a surveillance camera.