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A sysadmin is the person who setup the windows machines and the printers. If you're working with Linux systems and automating stuff, make yourself a favor and

A sysadmin is the person who setup the windows machines and the printers. If you're working with Linux systems and automating stuff, make yourself a favor and call yourself a DevOps.

bsagdiyev 7y ago
I automate and work with Linux systems and I still consider myself a sysadmin -- I'm not DevOps, I'm not an SRE. My skillset and experience might coincide with what those roles require, but I am and always will be a sysadmin in my mind. Putting lipstick on a pig doesn't make it a supermodel.
- user5994461 7y ago
  Do you search for DevOps or sysadmin in job postings? Whether you want it or not, sysadmin is left to designate the low end of the market, namely desktops and windows administration work, sometimes all the way to helpesk. Devops simply evolved as a separate term to designate the higher end of the market around linux and automation. Maybe in the silicon valley every company is a tech company looking for linux sysadmins and developers, but in the rest of the world "sysadmin" will usually get one into windows or low end roles.
  - bsagdiyev 7y ago
    I search for neither in job postings. Whatever the market wants to call it is fine, but that doesn't change the fact that at the end of the day we're just sysadmins with bigger hats and different titles. Even in San Diego, I see job postings for Systems Administrators and they are in fact just that, a sysadmin (sorry, "DevOps Engineer") and are not just for Windows or helpdesk work. The world outside of San Francisco is pretty normal, generally. Even my previous role at Sony was for a Linux Systems Administrator, but I still automated and did way more involved work than someone just doing printers and helpdesk.
whatsmyusername 7y ago
That's the connotation, which is why I won't even consider a position billed as 'sysadmin' even if there is a component of it to the job.

A sysadmin is the person who setup the windows machines and the printers. If you're working with Linux systems and automating stuff, make yourself a favor and call yourself a DevOps.

bsagdiyev 7y ago

I automate and work with Linux systems and I still consider myself a sysadmin -- I'm not DevOps, I'm not an SRE. My skillset and experience might coincide with what those roles require, but I am and always will be a sysadmin in my mind. Putting lipstick on a pig doesn't make it a supermodel.

user5994461 7y ago
Do you search for DevOps or sysadmin in job postings? Whether you want it or not, sysadmin is left to designate the low end of the market, namely desktops and windows administration work, sometimes all the way to helpesk. Devops simply evolved as a separate term to designate the higher end of the market around linux and automation. Maybe in the silicon valley every company is a tech company looking for linux sysadmins and developers, but in the rest of the world "sysadmin" will usually get one into windows or low end roles.
- bsagdiyev 7y ago
  I search for neither in job postings. Whatever the market wants to call it is fine, but that doesn't change the fact that at the end of the day we're just sysadmins with bigger hats and different titles. Even in San Diego, I see job postings for Systems Administrators and they are in fact just that, a sysadmin (sorry, "DevOps Engineer") and are not just for Windows or helpdesk work. The world outside of San Francisco is pretty normal, generally. Even my previous role at Sony was for a Linux Systems Administrator, but I still automated and did way more involved work than someone just doing printers and helpdesk.

whatsmyusername 7y ago

That's the connotation, which is why I won't even consider a position billed as 'sysadmin' even if there is a component of it to the job.