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That quote presents a good story, but I don't think it is true. I could hardly be more engaged than I was this evening sitting at my brother's kitchen table, dr

That quote presents a good story, but I don't think it is true. I could hardly be more engaged than I was this evening sitting at my brother's kitchen table, drinking wine while he cooked and talking about the endeavor of providing food for the family. That I watch two screens sometimes when the TV is on has hardly changed that. If anything it has made my enjoyment of in person conversation more acute.

stevenhuang 7y ago
That's fair but it also doesn't mean much to be able to provide an exception to his general statement, since we still don't know if it's not the case for the majority.
- asdfasgasdgasdg 7y ago
  True, but I'm implying by my provision of an anecdote that I disbelieve the (also unsupported) assertions in the quote.
gtirloni 7y ago
> That I watch two screens sometimes when the TV is on has hardly changed that. If anything it has made my enjoyment of in person conversation more acute. Could you elaborate?
- Zancarius 7y ago
  I'm certain this isn't what the OP means, but from my own personal experience I think it's one of utility. Since you posted this 8 hours ago and no one's replied yet, it can't hurt to give you at least one other illustration. When watching something on television with family or friends, if a question ever comes up about how something works (what it does, or what it is) that may not be made clear by the show, looking it up on another screen (e.g. mobile device) can lead to a much deeper conversation and better enjoyment of the subject matter. It can also lead to conversations afterwards discussing what we watched in greater detail than if we knew only what was presented in the show. As an example that happened to me over the holidays, I was watching Alaska Aircrash Investigations with my parents as my mother has a fascination with investigative things, and she spent part of the time on her tablet looking up information on the NTSB staff in the show and, occasionally, some of the accident reports (if she could find them). This lead to both an interesting series of conversations about the people involved and greater appreciation for the program since we collectively knew more about the investigators and their backgrounds. Tangentially, this is also why I think streaming YouTube to a television is such a beautiful thing (sometimes having the comments on a second screen while watching can be hilarious or depressing).
Jwarder 7y ago
I found that I have changed my ideas on "enjoyment" per-activity, but not overall. For example: I've developed the habit of watching a movie while exercising in the evenings and listening to discussions on YouTube while gaming. As a result the idea of sitting down for a couple of hours to just watch TV or a movie is almost painfully boring. But I don't (seem to) have that need for sensory saturation with other activities. I have no problem just sitting down to read for hours.

stevenhuang 7y ago

That's fair but it also doesn't mean much to be able to provide an exception to his general statement, since we still don't know if it's not the case for the majority.

asdfasgasdgasdg 7y ago
True, but I'm implying by my provision of an anecdote that I disbelieve the (also unsupported) assertions in the quote.

gtirloni 7y ago

> That I watch two screens sometimes when the TV is on has hardly changed that. If anything it has made my enjoyment of in person conversation more acute. Could you elaborate?

Zancarius 7y ago
I'm certain this isn't what the OP means, but from my own personal experience I think it's one of utility. Since you posted this 8 hours ago and no one's replied yet, it can't hurt to give you at least one other illustration. When watching something on television with family or friends, if a question ever comes up about how something works (what it does, or what it is) that may not be made clear by the show, looking it up on another screen (e.g. mobile device) can lead to a much deeper conversation and better enjoyment of the subject matter. It can also lead to conversations afterwards discussing what we watched in greater detail than if we knew only what was presented in the show. As an example that happened to me over the holidays, I was watching Alaska Aircrash Investigations with my parents as my mother has a fascination with investigative things, and she spent part of the time on her tablet looking up information on the NTSB staff in the show and, occasionally, some of the accident reports (if she could find them). This lead to both an interesting series of conversations about the people involved and greater appreciation for the program since we collectively knew more about the investigators and their backgrounds. Tangentially, this is also why I think streaming YouTube to a television is such a beautiful thing (sometimes having the comments on a second screen while watching can be hilarious or depressing).

Jwarder 7y ago

I found that I have changed my ideas on "enjoyment" per-activity, but not overall. For example: I've developed the habit of watching a movie while exercising in the evenings and listening to discussions on YouTube while gaming. As a result the idea of sitting down for a couple of hours to just watch TV or a movie is almost painfully boring. But I don't (seem to) have that need for sensory saturation with other activities. I have no problem just sitting down to read for hours.