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> people shouldn’t feel entitled to getting exactly the wage they want, doing exactly the job they want, living exactly where they want, and so on You're attac

> people shouldn’t feel entitled to getting exactly the wage they want, doing exactly the job they want, living exactly where they want, and so on You're attacking a strawman, nobody has called for any of these things. > poverty rate is dropping, food insecurity is dropping there should be almost none of either of these problems in the richest country on this planet

throwawaysea 7y ago
I don’t think it’s a straw man. I was responding to this part of the article, which suggests that jobs should also be of a certain minimum quality: > What’s more, the jobs that our “blockbuster” economy is creating aren’t just lackluster in monetary terms, but in other measures of job quality, as well. A recent Gallup survey illuminates this point. To assemble a more fine-grained portrait of American working life than federal wage and employment data can provide, the pollster asked 6,600 U.S. workers what they saw as the defining characteristics of a “good” job, then used their answers to construct a “job-quality index.” The resulting metric reflects not only a given job’s level of wages and benefits but also whether it offers career-advancement opportunities, stable hours, a sense of purpose, the ability to change unsatisfying aspects of one’s employment, and job security, among other things. The article seems bent on making this point. Earlier on the article, it notes the following in even more vague terms: > For the median job-seeker in Trump’s America, the odds may be good, but the good jobs are an oddity. To me I feel this is textbook entitlement, expecting everything to be perfect, and expecting work to be more than a voluntary two-party exchange of goods and services that participants undertake in search of utility. Isn’t this just greed and seeking luxury in a different veil? It is possible to have jobs that provide in all these dimensions but I think because everyone would want those conditions, the competition would be fierce and would diminish some qualities (like pay) as a result. If one desires extraordinary workplace circumstances they must differentiate themselves through talent or hard work. It can’t be something everyone gets for “free”.
- cmxch 7y ago
  There is still too much in favor of employers to expect a truly voluntary exchange. The late 90's is the most recent time when you could argue employee/candidate entitlement.

throwawaysea 7y ago

I don’t think it’s a straw man. I was responding to this part of the article, which suggests that jobs should also be of a certain minimum quality: > What’s more, the jobs that our “blockbuster” economy is creating aren’t just lackluster in monetary terms, but in other measures of job quality, as well. A recent Gallup survey illuminates this point. To assemble a more fine-grained portrait of American working life than federal wage and employment data can provide, the pollster asked 6,600 U.S. workers what they saw as the defining characteristics of a “good” job, then used their answers to construct a “job-quality index.” The resulting metric reflects not only a given job’s level of wages and benefits but also whether it offers career-advancement opportunities, stable hours, a sense of purpose, the ability to change unsatisfying aspects of one’s employment, and job security, among other things. The article seems bent on making this point. Earlier on the article, it notes the following in even more vague terms: > For the median job-seeker in Trump’s America, the odds may be good, but the good jobs are an oddity. To me I feel this is textbook entitlement, expecting everything to be perfect, and expecting work to be more than a voluntary two-party exchange of goods and services that participants undertake in search of utility. Isn’t this just greed and seeking luxury in a different veil? It is possible to have jobs that provide in all these dimensions but I think because everyone would want those conditions, the competition would be fierce and would diminish some qualities (like pay) as a result. If one desires extraordinary workplace circumstances they must differentiate themselves through talent or hard work. It can’t be something everyone gets for “free”.

cmxch 7y ago
There is still too much in favor of employers to expect a truly voluntary exchange. The late 90's is the most recent time when you could argue employee/candidate entitlement.