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So what? You don’t understand what’s going on inside your CPU because at this point they’re too complex for anyone to fully know, and probably your understandin

So what? You don’t understand what’s going on inside your CPU because at this point they’re too complex for anyone to fully know, and probably your understanding of the OS is on an as-needed basis. Why hold others to a different standard.

huffmsa 7y ago
Correct. A surgeon or gastrointerologist might only have an understanding of the circulatory system insofar as it helps their surgeries and gastrointestinal work. So yeah, I'd probably go to a doctor who's really good at removing appendixes over the guy with comprehensive medical knowledge.
- TheOtherHobbes 7y ago
  Doctors all acquire broad medical knowledge as part of their training. They're not allowed to specialise until they've shown adequate competence in basic general medicine. An eye specialist who is absolutely clueless about heart or kidney function would be unusual, and not particularly useful. Not only do most drugs have multi-system side-effects, but many conditions affect multiple systems. So Dr Appendix Removal will almost certainly do all kinds of surgery. Consultants tend to have a more limited focus, but you don't get to be a consultant without doing a lot of other medicine first. Usually they either work as supervisors/managers, or they're called on to consult/advise and maybe operate on more challenging cases.
  - huffmsa 7y ago
    Yes I know the reality of the situation. So let's rephrase. Do you trust an AI controlled robot specialized in appendix removal (with a very good track record) but zero knowledge of other systems or procedures?
    - ayende 7y ago
      Why would it have zero knowledge of other systems? Unlike people, you can just upload the information to it over high speed interface.
      - huffmsa 7y ago
        Why does a robot trained to remove appendicitis need to know about the bones of the foot?
      - z3t4 7y ago
        Surgeons spend a lot of time studying. Its not like some employers in tech that expect the dev to operate on different kind of patients all day long with 100% productivity and no prior training except what they already knew from school. So information is constantly being uploaded. But developers need to rely on abstractions because the field is constantly changing. After 10 years a framework would be obsolete or undergone major changes. Meanwhile the human evolution won't change much in 10 years although there will be a lot of new research the anatomy stays the same.
emsy 7y ago
Did you understand what I wrote? Nuance is exactly what I advocate for. The problem is not people not knowing things, but people thinking they don’t ever need to know more and just rely on the underlying magic.

huffmsa 7y ago

Correct. A surgeon or gastrointerologist might only have an understanding of the circulatory system insofar as it helps their surgeries and gastrointestinal work. So yeah, I'd probably go to a doctor who's really good at removing appendixes over the guy with comprehensive medical knowledge.

TheOtherHobbes 7y ago
Doctors all acquire broad medical knowledge as part of their training. They're not allowed to specialise until they've shown adequate competence in basic general medicine. An eye specialist who is absolutely clueless about heart or kidney function would be unusual, and not particularly useful. Not only do most drugs have multi-system side-effects, but many conditions affect multiple systems. So Dr Appendix Removal will almost certainly do all kinds of surgery. Consultants tend to have a more limited focus, but you don't get to be a consultant without doing a lot of other medicine first. Usually they either work as supervisors/managers, or they're called on to consult/advise and maybe operate on more challenging cases.
- huffmsa 7y ago
  Yes I know the reality of the situation. So let's rephrase. Do you trust an AI controlled robot specialized in appendix removal (with a very good track record) but zero knowledge of other systems or procedures?
  - ayende 7y ago
    Why would it have zero knowledge of other systems? Unlike people, you can just upload the information to it over high speed interface.
    - huffmsa 7y ago
      Why does a robot trained to remove appendicitis need to know about the bones of the foot?
    - z3t4 7y ago
      Surgeons spend a lot of time studying. Its not like some employers in tech that expect the dev to operate on different kind of patients all day long with 100% productivity and no prior training except what they already knew from school. So information is constantly being uploaded. But developers need to rely on abstractions because the field is constantly changing. After 10 years a framework would be obsolete or undergone major changes. Meanwhile the human evolution won't change much in 10 years although there will be a lot of new research the anatomy stays the same.

emsy 7y ago

Did you understand what I wrote? Nuance is exactly what I advocate for. The problem is not people not knowing things, but people thinking they don’t ever need to know more and just rely on the underlying magic.