funny thing is, when "software engineer" as a term came along, it was a bit of a fuzzy term, but here in NZ a lot of people took it as someone who had a enginee

funny thing is, when "software engineer" as a term came along, it was a bit of a fuzzy term, but here in NZ a lot of people took it as someone who had a engineering background and understood something of electronics/mechanical/chemical/civil engineering, a number of courses made SE have a common first year with the other engineering disciplines. This was more my background I did software / electronic engineering and went into embedded systems for electronic/mechanical/software type systems. Though these days I do more "full stack" systems development but still highly involved in embedded development. But of course, software engineer has no particular definition and lots of people use the term to describe themselves, even if they have no real engineering background.