The only Java deskop app I've used that doesn't feel bloated is Charles. It _still_ has that Swing "almost looks like OSX" look to it but otherwise, it's comple

The only Java deskop app I've used that doesn't feel bloated is Charles. It _still_ has that Swing "almost looks like OSX" look to it but otherwise, it's completely usable. I use IntelliJ nearly every day, and while it's insanely powerful, it feels so incredibly bloated. I'm running on a 6th gen Thinkpad X1C (Arch Linux), a 2017 Macbook Pro (both with 16G of RAM) and a brand new Ryzen 7 with 32G of Ram. It just isn't snappy. I've always wanted to write a JavaFX app and compare it across platforms. I've seen some really nice demos.