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Better that then the successful plaintiff being left holding the bag when their civil rights are horrifically violated. Excessive force cases can and do result

Better that then the successful plaintiff being left holding the bag when their civil rights are horrifically violated. Excessive force cases can and do result in death and disability not including whatever mental trauma. Better the people that the state that employs law enforcement bear the cost associated with their actions, then victims of civil rights violations are unable to collect against a bankrupt defendant.

mistermann 7y ago
Any comment on the "In the mean time the authorities have effectively shut down the protest, that was perfectly legal" aspect?
grecy 7y ago
And better yet would be your right to assemble actually being worth a damn, and you never being arrested for doing something that is supposedly legal. You're so caught up in the whole charade of "Money = Life" you don't even realize there should never have been an arrest or a legal battle in the first place, if the American people really do have a right to assemble. Now if they don't, your discussion is valid I suppose.
- lawlessquestion 7y ago
  Use your right to bear arms to defend your right to assemble.
  - mistermann 7y ago
    This seems less optimal than simply not denying people their rights in the first place. Are you opposed to that idea for some reason?
    - lawlessquestion 7y ago
      Not at all. However we live in a world where law enforcement for a variety of factors continue to attempt to suppress our rights to assemble.
  - grecy 7y ago
    It is extremely sad and scary that any intelligent person would actually suggest using violence and guns against the US government to defend rights citizens supposedly already have. You're talking about starting a civil war that will likely result in the brutal and horrible deaths of tens of millions of civilians, the collapse of the US economy and likely that would drag some others down too. For a country that is supposedly one of the greatest on the planet, things don't seem to be going so well.

mistermann 7y ago

Any comment on the "In the mean time the authorities have effectively shut down the protest, that was perfectly legal" aspect?

grecy 7y ago

And better yet would be your right to assemble actually being worth a damn, and you never being arrested for doing something that is supposedly legal. You're so caught up in the whole charade of "Money = Life" you don't even realize there should never have been an arrest or a legal battle in the first place, if the American people really do have a right to assemble. Now if they don't, your discussion is valid I suppose.

lawlessquestion 7y ago
Use your right to bear arms to defend your right to assemble.
- mistermann 7y ago
  This seems less optimal than simply not denying people their rights in the first place. Are you opposed to that idea for some reason?
  - lawlessquestion 7y ago
    Not at all. However we live in a world where law enforcement for a variety of factors continue to attempt to suppress our rights to assemble.
- grecy 7y ago
  It is extremely sad and scary that any intelligent person would actually suggest using violence and guns against the US government to defend rights citizens supposedly already have. You're talking about starting a civil war that will likely result in the brutal and horrible deaths of tens of millions of civilians, the collapse of the US economy and likely that would drag some others down too. For a country that is supposedly one of the greatest on the planet, things don't seem to be going so well.