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I see Pollock-like depth visuals every time I am incredibly hungover. So given the context I had always associated them with this deep, wisely accepted sadness

I see Pollock-like depth visuals every time I am incredibly hungover. So given the context I had always associated them with this deep, wisely accepted sadness which comes after realising your own mortality and limitations. It's such an engineer's opinion, that life somehow owes you a clearly-defined meaning and forms.

YeGoblynQueenne 7y ago
Cheers, I'll take that as a compliment. Before I studied computer science, in another life as they say, I studied art. I took history of art courses and I was taught the official explanation for Pollock's work, that it's really a study of human motion. I bring up the Artemission bronze partly as a counterpoint. _That_ is a study of human motion. Not what Pollock did. There is real knowledge and understanding of the world that we can acquire. Obviously not for everything. Obviously the world doesn't "owe" us anything. But we can study, and work, and learn what there is to learn. Pollock did none of that. He just moved his arms around and pretended to do it, like a magician without magic, like a conductor without an orchestra. Edit: it is Pollock's work that is cynical (referring to what the GP said). Its premise is that nothing is really worth it. That you don't get anything out of working hard to try and understand. So embrace your limitations and wallow in the cheap and effortless, because you can never do better than that. Well, that's -sorry for the easy point but- bollocks. You can do much better than that. People have done much better than that for thousands of years.
- heavenlyblue 7y ago
  >> So embrace your limitations and wallow in the cheap and effortless, because you can never do better than that. That’s not what I said. I said this is what kind of feelings it makes me remember. It doesn’t mean I think that life has to be cheap and effortless per se. Yet I would appreciate art that reminds me of these feelings? You are your typical art academician who having studied art now thinks they know better than others. I don’t think you do. Did you go for computer science because it pays better? So who’s truly cynical here now? I went for computer science because I was good at it since the age of 11. It’s my passion and I have a sense of respect for people who earned their name in other industries, even if they did so not exactly through the most straightforward methods. You may say it’s bullshit. But so is Steve Jobs? After all, he died because he didn’t do chemo at the right time, instead going for yoga.
  - YeGoblynQueenne 7y ago
    >> That’s not what I said. To clarify, the sentence you quote referred to my interpretation of Pollock's outlook, not to something you said. I'm guessing you misunderstood my comment as a personal attack on you and you chose to escalate? Otherwise I can't explain the sudden personal tone of your comment. Did I cause confusion by using "you" and "yours" in the general sense?
- somebadguy 7y ago
  You're just a jumped up moron who thinks they know something. Stupid little cunt

YeGoblynQueenne 7y ago

Cheers, I'll take that as a compliment. Before I studied computer science, in another life as they say, I studied art. I took history of art courses and I was taught the official explanation for Pollock's work, that it's really a study of human motion. I bring up the Artemission bronze partly as a counterpoint. _That_ is a study of human motion. Not what Pollock did. There is real knowledge and understanding of the world that we can acquire. Obviously not for everything. Obviously the world doesn't "owe" us anything. But we can study, and work, and learn what there is to learn. Pollock did none of that. He just moved his arms around and pretended to do it, like a magician without magic, like a conductor without an orchestra. Edit: it is Pollock's work that is cynical (referring to what the GP said). Its premise is that nothing is really worth it. That you don't get anything out of working hard to try and understand. So embrace your limitations and wallow in the cheap and effortless, because you can never do better than that. Well, that's -sorry for the easy point but- bollocks. You can do much better than that. People have done much better than that for thousands of years.

heavenlyblue 7y ago
>> So embrace your limitations and wallow in the cheap and effortless, because you can never do better than that. That’s not what I said. I said this is what kind of feelings it makes me remember. It doesn’t mean I think that life has to be cheap and effortless per se. Yet I would appreciate art that reminds me of these feelings? You are your typical art academician who having studied art now thinks they know better than others. I don’t think you do. Did you go for computer science because it pays better? So who’s truly cynical here now? I went for computer science because I was good at it since the age of 11. It’s my passion and I have a sense of respect for people who earned their name in other industries, even if they did so not exactly through the most straightforward methods. You may say it’s bullshit. But so is Steve Jobs? After all, he died because he didn’t do chemo at the right time, instead going for yoga.
- YeGoblynQueenne 7y ago
  >> That’s not what I said. To clarify, the sentence you quote referred to my interpretation of Pollock's outlook, not to something you said. I'm guessing you misunderstood my comment as a personal attack on you and you chose to escalate? Otherwise I can't explain the sudden personal tone of your comment. Did I cause confusion by using "you" and "yours" in the general sense?
somebadguy 7y ago
You're just a jumped up moron who thinks they know something. Stupid little cunt