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> - Regional versions of films with anything from chunks of dialog ("I'm from X") up through entire cityscape backgrounds changed depending on the theater locat

> - Regional versions of films with anything from chunks of dialog ("I'm from X") up through entire cityscape backgrounds changed depending on the theater location. With CG, even things like character appearance (e.g. race) could be regional. This already happens. Pixar movies for example do this, Inside Out for example used different region-specific foods that kids didn't like for that memory in the movie. Movies released in China and the US often are cut differently where in China the Chinese actor or actress is given more prominence in the plot.

xbmcuser 7y ago
Movies have different cuts for different regions to pass different censorship ratings the currently running star wars movies has a few scenes cut to get PG13 rating in Singapore.
- mgiannopoulos 7y ago
  Just FYI: That’s a single 1-second scene of a lesbian kiss (during celebrations at the end of the movie) with two nameless characters that don’t matter in the movie.
  - xbmcuser 7y ago
    Yeah but it is a different edit wolf of wall street had bigger edits
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JoeSmithson 7y ago
This is rarely done well. In Inside Out UK edition, the dad daydreams by thinking about a football (soccer) match, presumably because this is a stereotypical Dad Thing "translated" to British. However, it is a major plot point that the dad (and whole family) are obsessed with ice hockey so this makes no sense. He never mentions or thinks about soccer again. Similarly Captain America's personal list of pop culture stuff is replaced with a local version, which makes no sense for the embodiment of USA. There is an interesting bit in Le Ton Beau de Marot about the French translation of Gödel Escher Bach where Hofstadter says he instructed the French translation team to feel free to "culturally translate" analogies and examples etc, but is horrified when they translate a personal anecdote about attending an American football game in Ann Arbor into a rugby match.
- whywhywhywhy 7y ago
  Never been a fan of localisations, this idea that audiences can’t understand things outside their culture seems a pretty low view to have of your audience and the changes that the localisers add just tend to add confusion rather than clarity. Like how in 90s videogames localisers thought they were being smart renaming items from Rice Ball to Hamburger. Usually without changing the sprites. I’d prefer it if the initial ideas and setting of the story were kept in tact and just translated rather than someone trying to be smart about it and failing.
  - chrisseaton 7y ago
    > Never been a fan of localisations, this idea that audiences can’t understand things outside their culture seems a pretty low view to have of your audience Did you hear how many changes they had to Harry Potter to make it understandable to an American audience? And that's the same language even!
    - kibwen 7y ago
      Were there any changes beyond turning "the Philosopher's Stone" into "the Sorcerer's Stone"? I recall 12 year-old me routinely glossing blithely over Britishisms like "dustbin", or what felt like 90% of what was served in the cafeteria.
      - chrisseaton 7y ago
        Quite a few, yes, but having to change the title is pretty drastic! https://www.hp-lexicon.org/2001/08/25/differences-between-british-and-us-versions-of-ps/ https://www.hp-lexicon.org/2001/08/25/differences-between-br...
        citizenkeen 7y ago
        Those aren't localizations, those are translations. Changing trainers to sneakers is different than changing broccoli to a different vegetable.

xbmcuser 7y ago

Movies have different cuts for different regions to pass different censorship ratings the currently running star wars movies has a few scenes cut to get PG13 rating in Singapore.

mgiannopoulos 7y ago
Just FYI: That’s a single 1-second scene of a lesbian kiss (during celebrations at the end of the movie) with two nameless characters that don’t matter in the movie.
- xbmcuser 7y ago
  Yeah but it is a different edit wolf of wall street had bigger edits
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JoeSmithson 7y ago

This is rarely done well. In Inside Out UK edition, the dad daydreams by thinking about a football (soccer) match, presumably because this is a stereotypical Dad Thing "translated" to British. However, it is a major plot point that the dad (and whole family) are obsessed with ice hockey so this makes no sense. He never mentions or thinks about soccer again. Similarly Captain America's personal list of pop culture stuff is replaced with a local version, which makes no sense for the embodiment of USA. There is an interesting bit in Le Ton Beau de Marot about the French translation of Gödel Escher Bach where Hofstadter says he instructed the French translation team to feel free to "culturally translate" analogies and examples etc, but is horrified when they translate a personal anecdote about attending an American football game in Ann Arbor into a rugby match.

whywhywhywhy 7y ago
Never been a fan of localisations, this idea that audiences can’t understand things outside their culture seems a pretty low view to have of your audience and the changes that the localisers add just tend to add confusion rather than clarity. Like how in 90s videogames localisers thought they were being smart renaming items from Rice Ball to Hamburger. Usually without changing the sprites. I’d prefer it if the initial ideas and setting of the story were kept in tact and just translated rather than someone trying to be smart about it and failing.
- chrisseaton 7y ago
  > Never been a fan of localisations, this idea that audiences can’t understand things outside their culture seems a pretty low view to have of your audience Did you hear how many changes they had to Harry Potter to make it understandable to an American audience? And that's the same language even!
  - kibwen 7y ago
    Were there any changes beyond turning "the Philosopher's Stone" into "the Sorcerer's Stone"? I recall 12 year-old me routinely glossing blithely over Britishisms like "dustbin", or what felt like 90% of what was served in the cafeteria.
    - chrisseaton 7y ago
      Quite a few, yes, but having to change the title is pretty drastic! https://www.hp-lexicon.org/2001/08/25/differences-between-british-and-us-versions-of-ps/ https://www.hp-lexicon.org/2001/08/25/differences-between-br...
      - citizenkeen 7y ago
        Those aren't localizations, those are translations. Changing trainers to sneakers is different than changing broccoli to a different vegetable.