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Ads in and of themselves are bad, even without tracking. My time and attention are the only truly limited resources I have. Hijacking those to make me desire th

Ads in and of themselves are bad, even without tracking. My time and attention are the only truly limited resources I have. Hijacking those to make me desire things I don’t need reduces my quality of life. Secondarily, ads corrupt every media outlet they touch. To hell with all of them.

naasking 7y ago
And you can opt out of ads by buying their coin to distribute to sites that require payment.
- jki275 7y ago
  Or I can run an ad blocker and they can go fuck themselves.
  - naasking 7y ago
    Sure, and thanks for contributing to the decline of the free web.
    - Simon_says 7y ago
      Ads are the decline of the free web.
      - naasking 7y ago
        Yeah, no. The ad model driven by broken financial incentives and broken browsers that leak privacy everywhere is what broke the web. Fixing those incentives and fixing the browser fixes the actual problem. Free content still costs money to host. If I can't write about cool programming or science projects for free, like having my hosting paid by ads, I very likely won't write it at all, and the web would be all the poorer for it if everyone in similar shoes reaches the same logical conclusion.
    - jki275 7y ago
      No. Ads have destroyed the web. I have no desire to support this broken system.
  - buboard 7y ago
    i m sure publishers will not appreciate that attitude and will block your ad blocker. some publishers may redirect those users to brave.
    - jki275 7y ago
      Then I don’t care about their content.
      - buboard 7y ago
        if one hits a paywall, they must necessarily have cared about their content
        jki275 7y ago
        My care meter goes instantly to zero. It's capable of being adjusted.
buboard 7y ago
brave uses ads to generate revenue for users. But the tokens might be used in the future to incentivize more direct behaviors, e.g. incentivize users to sign up or post quality content or buy a product. This would completely bypass the advertising ecosystem and the nuissances it creates, connecting users and makers directly. It's still marketing, but direct. There are many possibilities when payments are frictionless.
- Simon_says 7y ago
  Realistically, what kind of money are we talking about? There is some amount of money I would sell my attention for, but it’s somewhere in the multiple hundreds of dollars per hour. Less than that, and my effort is more efficiently spent on other things. More than that, and I’m extremely suspicious of the motives of who would pay that and why. Get real. Ads are disgusting.
  - buboard 7y ago
    there are already "offer walls", i.e. incentivized actions that reward users with small amounts of money. Or users could e.g. be rewarded if their amazon reviews are highly rated. there is an incentive for websites to do that. it doesnt even have to be about ads

naasking 7y ago

And you can opt out of ads by buying their coin to distribute to sites that require payment.

jki275 7y ago
Or I can run an ad blocker and they can go fuck themselves.
- naasking 7y ago
  Sure, and thanks for contributing to the decline of the free web.
  - Simon_says 7y ago
    Ads are the decline of the free web.
    - naasking 7y ago
      Yeah, no. The ad model driven by broken financial incentives and broken browsers that leak privacy everywhere is what broke the web. Fixing those incentives and fixing the browser fixes the actual problem. Free content still costs money to host. If I can't write about cool programming or science projects for free, like having my hosting paid by ads, I very likely won't write it at all, and the web would be all the poorer for it if everyone in similar shoes reaches the same logical conclusion.
  - jki275 7y ago
    No. Ads have destroyed the web. I have no desire to support this broken system.
- buboard 7y ago
  i m sure publishers will not appreciate that attitude and will block your ad blocker. some publishers may redirect those users to brave.
  - jki275 7y ago
    Then I don’t care about their content.
    - buboard 7y ago
      if one hits a paywall, they must necessarily have cared about their content
      - jki275 7y ago
        My care meter goes instantly to zero. It's capable of being adjusted.

buboard 7y ago

brave uses ads to generate revenue for users. But the tokens might be used in the future to incentivize more direct behaviors, e.g. incentivize users to sign up or post quality content or buy a product. This would completely bypass the advertising ecosystem and the nuissances it creates, connecting users and makers directly. It's still marketing, but direct. There are many possibilities when payments are frictionless.

Simon_says 7y ago
Realistically, what kind of money are we talking about? There is some amount of money I would sell my attention for, but it’s somewhere in the multiple hundreds of dollars per hour. Less than that, and my effort is more efficiently spent on other things. More than that, and I’m extremely suspicious of the motives of who would pay that and why. Get real. Ads are disgusting.
- buboard 7y ago
  there are already "offer walls", i.e. incentivized actions that reward users with small amounts of money. Or users could e.g. be rewarded if their amazon reviews are highly rated. there is an incentive for websites to do that. it doesnt even have to be about ads