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Because of strategic challenges, Reusable Scalable Intelligent Systems will be developed by 2025 with the following characteristics: • Interactively acquire in

Because of strategic challenges, Reusable Scalable Intelligent Systems will be developed by 2025 with the following characteristics: • Interactively acquire information from video, Web pages, hologlasses (electronic glasses with holographic-like overlays), online data bases, sensors, articles, human speech and gestures, etc. • Real-time integration of massive pervasively inconsistent information • Self-informative in the sense of knowing its own goals, plans, history, provenance of its information and having relevant information about its own strengths and weaknesses. • Close human interaction using hologlasses for secure mobile communication. • No closed-form algorithmic solution is possible to implement the above capabilities • Reusable so that advances in one area can readily be used elsewhere without having to start over from scratch. • Scalable in all important dimensions meaning that there are no hard barriers to continual improvement in the above areas, i.e., system performance continually significantly improves. A large project (analogous to Manhattan and Apollo) is required to meet strategic challenges for Intelligent Systems and S5G (Secure 5G). See the following for an outline of technology involved: https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3428114 https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3428114

yters 7y ago
Why do you think intelligent systems is even feasible? Why do you assume it will be developed? And how is this any different than today's social networks? Either it already exists, or there is a significant AI portion that is completely unsubstantiated at this point.
- ProfHewitt 7y ago
  Strategic competition will be crucial because once one side shows that it is possible others will quickly follow. Do you see any reason that the technology outlined in the article cannot be implemented by 2025?
  - yters 7y ago
    All the AI technology in the article is promissory technology, i.e. it doesn't exist except by analogy to human intelligence, and specious claims it'll be better than what has come before. What if all AI tech that has come before sucks because there is a fundamental limit to what algorithms can do, and that limit is much less (infinitely less) than what human intelligence can do? There is a fundamental assumption behind all AI research that the human mind can be simulated by a Turing machine, and no one has verified that assumption. AI research is just floating on the materialistic bias that the mind is reducible to the matter in the brain. We could very well have a supernatural soul, and thus the materialistic bias is completely wrong. Thus, I don't see any reason the technology can be implemented by any date.
    - ProfHewitt 7y ago
      A Reusable Scalable Intelligent System (e.g. for pain management or dementia management) is not a human equivalent. You didn't give any reason why you think that technology in the preprint cannot be implemented by 2025.
      - yters 7y ago
        To justify the feasibility of the MORI system the preprint draws numerous analogies to human intellectual capabilities like adaptability to a changing information environment and dealing with inconsistent information. Humans can certainly handle these scenarios, but why assume such intellectual capabilities are computable? We have great difficulty emulating any sort of human intellectual ability with computation, with a near zero success rate, and only success in very narrow and highly consistent domains. I don't see any reason why our success rate with AI tech will increase when the domain becomes broad, changes rapidly, and is inconsistent.
    - somewhereoutth 7y ago
      Agreed. A Turing machine operates in a discrete countable state space, whereas the human brain requires real numbers for a complete state description. Cantor showed (with the diagonal argument) that real numbers are uncountable - so there are (infinitely many!) real numbers that are unreachable using a Turing machine. My suspicion is that AGI, consciousness, perhaps even the supernatural soul you allude to, can be found only in this unreachable state space. There exists a Cardinality Barrier!
- thrax 7y ago
  What is your definition of intelligent? because I see evidence of intelligent machines all around us.
  - yters 7y ago
    The machines are intelligent just like a doll is a baby. AI is merely grown up make believe. I would define intelligence as the ability to increase net information in a closed system. Something no algorithm can do, per the conservation of information.

yters 7y ago

Why do you think intelligent systems is even feasible? Why do you assume it will be developed? And how is this any different than today's social networks? Either it already exists, or there is a significant AI portion that is completely unsubstantiated at this point.

ProfHewitt 7y ago
Strategic competition will be crucial because once one side shows that it is possible others will quickly follow. Do you see any reason that the technology outlined in the article cannot be implemented by 2025?
- yters 7y ago
  All the AI technology in the article is promissory technology, i.e. it doesn't exist except by analogy to human intelligence, and specious claims it'll be better than what has come before. What if all AI tech that has come before sucks because there is a fundamental limit to what algorithms can do, and that limit is much less (infinitely less) than what human intelligence can do? There is a fundamental assumption behind all AI research that the human mind can be simulated by a Turing machine, and no one has verified that assumption. AI research is just floating on the materialistic bias that the mind is reducible to the matter in the brain. We could very well have a supernatural soul, and thus the materialistic bias is completely wrong. Thus, I don't see any reason the technology can be implemented by any date.
  - ProfHewitt 7y ago
    A Reusable Scalable Intelligent System (e.g. for pain management or dementia management) is not a human equivalent. You didn't give any reason why you think that technology in the preprint cannot be implemented by 2025.
    - yters 7y ago
      To justify the feasibility of the MORI system the preprint draws numerous analogies to human intellectual capabilities like adaptability to a changing information environment and dealing with inconsistent information. Humans can certainly handle these scenarios, but why assume such intellectual capabilities are computable? We have great difficulty emulating any sort of human intellectual ability with computation, with a near zero success rate, and only success in very narrow and highly consistent domains. I don't see any reason why our success rate with AI tech will increase when the domain becomes broad, changes rapidly, and is inconsistent.
  - somewhereoutth 7y ago
    Agreed. A Turing machine operates in a discrete countable state space, whereas the human brain requires real numbers for a complete state description. Cantor showed (with the diagonal argument) that real numbers are uncountable - so there are (infinitely many!) real numbers that are unreachable using a Turing machine. My suspicion is that AGI, consciousness, perhaps even the supernatural soul you allude to, can be found only in this unreachable state space. There exists a Cardinality Barrier!
thrax 7y ago
What is your definition of intelligent? because I see evidence of intelligent machines all around us.
- yters 7y ago
  The machines are intelligent just like a doll is a baby. AI is merely grown up make believe. I would define intelligence as the ability to increase net information in a closed system. Something no algorithm can do, per the conservation of information.