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The Dyatlov Pass Incident

dang 7y ago
A thread from 2016: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11828346 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11828346
sandworm101 7y ago
Terminal burial. Paradoxical undressing. People do strange things when they get cold. In winter mountains, it is not unusual to find bodies in unusual situations. People abandon warm tents, walk barefoot, and make stupid route decisions.
- curious_fella1 7y ago
  I think these death notes sum up the most interesting parts of the debacle. Hypothermia; leader of group Hypothermia Internal bleeding from severe chest trauma Hypothermia Hypothermia Hypothermia Hypothermia Fatal skull injury Severe chest trauma, eyes missing
  - chewz 7y ago
    https://dyatlovpass.com/death https://dyatlovpass.com/death More like Bayonet wound in front of the chest - leader of the group Hypothermia (signs of torture with fire) https://youtu.be/_WSmcnGT0wU?t=100 https://youtu.be/_WSmcnGT0wU?t=100 Hypothermia (signs of severe chest trauma) Hypothermia (severe nose bleading, trauma from riffle butt or baton on a hip) Fatal skull injury (hypothermia) Broken ribs, chest trauma Broken skull Broken neck Broken ribs (possibly not member of the group) https://youtu.be/-0PLLHogdbE?t=6 https://youtu.be/-0PLLHogdbE?t=6 https://youtu.be/rvNbjCDNOC4?t=192 https://youtu.be/rvNbjCDNOC4?t=192 https://youtu.be/UM2csYGEU5k?t=2197 https://youtu.be/UM2csYGEU5k?t=2197 https://youtu.be/QPpGQwprYP4 https://youtu.be/QPpGQwprYP4 Plus many mysteries surrounding at least 3 members of the group. https://dyatlovpass.com/rakitin-on-kolevatov https://dyatlovpass.com/rakitin-on-kolevatov https://dyatlovpass.com/konstantin-krivonischenko?rbid=18461 https://dyatlovpass.com/konstantin-krivonischenko?rbid=18461 https://youtu.be/uBzHvq3fWh8?t=1230 https://youtu.be/uBzHvq3fWh8?t=1230 https://youtu.be/-0PLLHogdbE?t=6 https://youtu.be/-0PLLHogdbE?t=6
avl999 7y ago
They also made a movie out of it https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the_dyatlov_pass_incident https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the_dyatlov_pass_incident used to be on Netflix, not sure if it still is. It wasn't bad.
- read_if_gay_ 7y ago
  There's a game named Kholat too. I liked the atmosphere but didn't end up playing much, got kinda bored. It's a puzzle horror game.
gm3dmo 7y ago
The 8th dyatlov pass headline on Hacker News. It's like Groundhog Day.
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- gm3dmo 7y ago
  Maybe there should be a citation? I have a new evidence or an original thought to add to the Dyatlov Pass Incident wiki page.
- gm3dmo 7y ago
  Days until Dyatlov Pass Incident mentioned on Hacker News?
- mindcrime 7y ago
  There are a handful of links (or closely related groups of links about a particular topic) that show up here over and over and over and over and over and over and over again... it's just the way things are. I guess some topics are just timeless. Look how many stories have been posted about Amelia Earhart, for example: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&query=amelia%20earhart&sort=byPopularity&type=story https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu... or D.B. Cooper https://hn.algolia.com/?q=d.b.+cooper https://hn.algolia.com/?q=d.b.+cooper
jandrese 7y ago
This is one of those mysteries where the sensational story covered up fairly mundane facts. https://www.cracked.com/article_16671_6-famous-unsolved-mysteries-with-really-obvious-solutions.html https://www.cracked.com/article_16671_6-famous-unsolved-myst...
srper2 7y ago
Tent put in stupid spot on snow slope leading to it being hit by small avalanche in night, which slammed metal stove and wooden bunks into injured victims. Panicked, they cut open the tent from inside and ran from the slope, fearing another, worse avalance, taking injured people with them (leaving torch on tent in rush). Put the most injured in a small snow cave, wrapped her with their clothing, thinking they could go back for more and stay warm with a fire, but ran out of firewood (all small lower branches were broken from surrounding trees). Person/s tried to go back to tent and died of cold on way, others died quickly afterwards (paradoxical undressing etc). Nothing weird happened at all. Probably too much alcohol, stupidity, dumb decisions and then panick. There is a full Russian coroners report online.
- mumblemumble 7y ago
  So, at least according to TFA, the original coroner's report was perhaps hasty, and there's some evidence that contradicts it, including there being no physical evidence of an avalanche having occurred, and the tracks appeared to be those of an orderly evacuation and not a panic. The new, apparently preferred, official theory that the article outlines seems even less extraordinary than the avalanche one: Tent in a stupid spot disturbs some snow and causes it to slide. Things then proceed along somewhat similar lines, but in a much more orderly manner, with the tragedy being exacerbated more by extreme weather than by extreme panic.
- chewz 7y ago
  > Tent put in stupid spot on snow slope leading to it being hit by small avalanche Tent put in a place where slope is only 15 degrees, no signs of avalanche > ran from the slope, fearing another, worse avalance, taking injured people with them There were traces of 8 people walking slowly downhill > ran out of firewood (all small lower branches were broken from surrounding trees There was enough of dead wood around better as firewood then fresh branches. Te fire wasn't tended to at all. > Person/s tried to go back to tent and died of cold on way If you believe coroner report they were all quite well dressed (for example Kolmogorova - two hats, long sleeve undershirt, sweater, checked shirt and another sweater, cotton sport pants, trousers, ski pants and three pairs of socks. Two pairs were thin, then the third pair was woolen with insoles inside.) https://dyatlovpass.com/death#Kolmogorova https://dyatlovpass.com/death#Kolmogorova > Probably too much alcohol They have sworn off alcohol for the trip. A small flask of medicinal alcohol had been found sealed. > There is a full Russian coroners report online Coroner reports describe several traumas (pressing on chest cavity, bitten off finger found in the mouth (so bitten at the moment of death), severe burns consistent with torture rather then accidental burn, broken nose, choking with blood, bruise looking like left from a baton, fracture of the frontal bone and hemorrhages ) and then conclude hypothermia. [] https://dyatlovpass.com/death https://dyatlovpass.com/death [] https://www.facebook.com/dyatlovmania/posts/forensic-pathologist-eduard-tumanov-considers-that-on-krivonischenkos-body-were-/2068699123426019/ https://www.facebook.com/dyatlovmania/posts/forensic-patholo... > It looks as if Rustem fell repeatedly on his face as he was walking down the mountain. And every time he fell he managed to hit the sides of the his head. Rustem's body was with icy bed under from the hardening of the thawing snow. This means that the body fell when relatively still warm and there was a noticeable heat exchange into the environment. [] https://dyatlovpass.com/death#Slobodin https://dyatlovpass.com/death#Slobodin
cruano 7y ago
I first heard about this from those mini-documentaries that lemmino does on youtube https://youtu.be/Y8RigxxiilI https://youtu.be/Y8RigxxiilI it's a great video explaining many of the theories revolving this incident

dang 7y ago

A thread from 2016: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11828346 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11828346

Terminal burial. Paradoxical undressing. People do strange things when they get cold. In winter mountains, it is not unusual to find bodies in unusual situations. People abandon warm tents, walk barefoot, and make stupid route decisions.

curious_fella1 7y ago
I think these death notes sum up the most interesting parts of the debacle. Hypothermia; leader of group Hypothermia Internal bleeding from severe chest trauma Hypothermia Hypothermia Hypothermia Hypothermia Fatal skull injury Severe chest trauma, eyes missing
- chewz 7y ago
  https://dyatlovpass.com/death https://dyatlovpass.com/death More like Bayonet wound in front of the chest - leader of the group Hypothermia (signs of torture with fire) https://youtu.be/_WSmcnGT0wU?t=100 https://youtu.be/_WSmcnGT0wU?t=100 Hypothermia (signs of severe chest trauma) Hypothermia (severe nose bleading, trauma from riffle butt or baton on a hip) Fatal skull injury (hypothermia) Broken ribs, chest trauma Broken skull Broken neck Broken ribs (possibly not member of the group) https://youtu.be/-0PLLHogdbE?t=6 https://youtu.be/-0PLLHogdbE?t=6 https://youtu.be/rvNbjCDNOC4?t=192 https://youtu.be/rvNbjCDNOC4?t=192 https://youtu.be/UM2csYGEU5k?t=2197 https://youtu.be/UM2csYGEU5k?t=2197 https://youtu.be/QPpGQwprYP4 https://youtu.be/QPpGQwprYP4 Plus many mysteries surrounding at least 3 members of the group. https://dyatlovpass.com/rakitin-on-kolevatov https://dyatlovpass.com/rakitin-on-kolevatov https://dyatlovpass.com/konstantin-krivonischenko?rbid=18461 https://dyatlovpass.com/konstantin-krivonischenko?rbid=18461 https://youtu.be/uBzHvq3fWh8?t=1230 https://youtu.be/uBzHvq3fWh8?t=1230 https://youtu.be/-0PLLHogdbE?t=6 https://youtu.be/-0PLLHogdbE?t=6

avl999 7y ago

They also made a movie out of it https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the_dyatlov_pass_incident https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the_dyatlov_pass_incident used to be on Netflix, not sure if it still is. It wasn't bad.

read_if_gay_ 7y ago
There's a game named Kholat too. I liked the atmosphere but didn't end up playing much, got kinda bored. It's a puzzle horror game.

gm3dmo 7y ago

The 8th dyatlov pass headline on Hacker News. It's like Groundhog Day.

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gm3dmo 7y ago
Maybe there should be a citation? I have a new evidence or an original thought to add to the Dyatlov Pass Incident wiki page.
gm3dmo 7y ago
Days until Dyatlov Pass Incident mentioned on Hacker News?
mindcrime 7y ago
There are a handful of links (or closely related groups of links about a particular topic) that show up here over and over and over and over and over and over and over again... it's just the way things are. I guess some topics are just timeless. Look how many stories have been posted about Amelia Earhart, for example: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&query=amelia%20earhart&sort=byPopularity&type=story https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu... or D.B. Cooper https://hn.algolia.com/?q=d.b.+cooper https://hn.algolia.com/?q=d.b.+cooper

jandrese 7y ago

This is one of those mysteries where the sensational story covered up fairly mundane facts. https://www.cracked.com/article_16671_6-famous-unsolved-mysteries-with-really-obvious-solutions.html https://www.cracked.com/article_16671_6-famous-unsolved-myst...

srper2 7y ago

Tent put in stupid spot on snow slope leading to it being hit by small avalanche in night, which slammed metal stove and wooden bunks into injured victims. Panicked, they cut open the tent from inside and ran from the slope, fearing another, worse avalance, taking injured people with them (leaving torch on tent in rush). Put the most injured in a small snow cave, wrapped her with their clothing, thinking they could go back for more and stay warm with a fire, but ran out of firewood (all small lower branches were broken from surrounding trees). Person/s tried to go back to tent and died of cold on way, others died quickly afterwards (paradoxical undressing etc). Nothing weird happened at all. Probably too much alcohol, stupidity, dumb decisions and then panick. There is a full Russian coroners report online.

mumblemumble 7y ago
So, at least according to TFA, the original coroner's report was perhaps hasty, and there's some evidence that contradicts it, including there being no physical evidence of an avalanche having occurred, and the tracks appeared to be those of an orderly evacuation and not a panic. The new, apparently preferred, official theory that the article outlines seems even less extraordinary than the avalanche one: Tent in a stupid spot disturbs some snow and causes it to slide. Things then proceed along somewhat similar lines, but in a much more orderly manner, with the tragedy being exacerbated more by extreme weather than by extreme panic.
chewz 7y ago
> Tent put in stupid spot on snow slope leading to it being hit by small avalanche Tent put in a place where slope is only 15 degrees, no signs of avalanche > ran from the slope, fearing another, worse avalance, taking injured people with them There were traces of 8 people walking slowly downhill > ran out of firewood (all small lower branches were broken from surrounding trees There was enough of dead wood around better as firewood then fresh branches. Te fire wasn't tended to at all. > Person/s tried to go back to tent and died of cold on way If you believe coroner report they were all quite well dressed (for example Kolmogorova - two hats, long sleeve undershirt, sweater, checked shirt and another sweater, cotton sport pants, trousers, ski pants and three pairs of socks. Two pairs were thin, then the third pair was woolen with insoles inside.) https://dyatlovpass.com/death#Kolmogorova https://dyatlovpass.com/death#Kolmogorova > Probably too much alcohol They have sworn off alcohol for the trip. A small flask of medicinal alcohol had been found sealed. > There is a full Russian coroners report online Coroner reports describe several traumas (pressing on chest cavity, bitten off finger found in the mouth (so bitten at the moment of death), severe burns consistent with torture rather then accidental burn, broken nose, choking with blood, bruise looking like left from a baton, fracture of the frontal bone and hemorrhages ) and then conclude hypothermia. [] https://dyatlovpass.com/death https://dyatlovpass.com/death [] https://www.facebook.com/dyatlovmania/posts/forensic-pathologist-eduard-tumanov-considers-that-on-krivonischenkos-body-were-/2068699123426019/ https://www.facebook.com/dyatlovmania/posts/forensic-patholo... > It looks as if Rustem fell repeatedly on his face as he was walking down the mountain. And every time he fell he managed to hit the sides of the his head. Rustem's body was with icy bed under from the hardening of the thawing snow. This means that the body fell when relatively still warm and there was a noticeable heat exchange into the environment. [] https://dyatlovpass.com/death#Slobodin https://dyatlovpass.com/death#Slobodin

cruano 7y ago

I first heard about this from those mini-documentaries that lemmino does on youtube https://youtu.be/Y8RigxxiilI https://youtu.be/Y8RigxxiilI it's a great video explaining many of the theories revolving this incident