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I don't think the best way to evaluate a study is to read the first few lines and guess at how offended the 8 researches are who wrote the paper. Also I would

I don't think the best way to evaluate a study is to read the first few lines and guess at how offended the 8 researches are who wrote the paper. Also I would describe the following as skeptical more than offended. > Because of enduring experience of managing two languages, bilinguals have been argued to develop superior executive functioning compared with monolinguals. Despite extensive investigation, there is, however, no consensus regarding the existence of such a bilingual advantage

zzzcpan 7y ago
> "bilinguals have been argued to develop superior executive functioning compared with monolinguals" This is the one I find very problematic. They made up an entire unscientific claim to disprove.
- casefields 7y ago
  Yup. That’s setting up the parameters in an obvious way to strawman an opponents argument.
  - CrazyStat 7y ago
    It can't be a strawman when it's an argument that the opponents have actually made. Examples are easy to find: https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2010-06955-009 https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2010-06955-009 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28895004/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28895004/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22464592/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22464592/
- cstrahan 7y ago
  > They made up an entire unscientific claim to disprove. Search for "bilingual smarter". Here are a handful of articles that suggest that many, many people have already put forth (or at least entertained the possibility of) these claims over the years: --- Does being bilingual make you smarter? | British Council Research Finds That Bilingual People Are Smarter, More Creative And Empathetic | Lifehack Are Bilingual People Smarter Than People Who Speak One Language? | JSTOR Daily Why Bilinguals Are Smarter | Association for Psychological Science How Being Bilingual Makes You Smarter | Grammarly Why Bilingual Kids Are Smarter | Bilingual Kidspot Are Bilinguals Really Smarter? | Psychology Today --- Could you provide any sources that suggest that the authors initiated this discourse?
- knzhou 7y ago
  Isn't that literally the claim the article posted here is making?

zzzcpan 7y ago

> "bilinguals have been argued to develop superior executive functioning compared with monolinguals" This is the one I find very problematic. They made up an entire unscientific claim to disprove.

casefields 7y ago
Yup. That’s setting up the parameters in an obvious way to strawman an opponents argument.
- CrazyStat 7y ago
  It can't be a strawman when it's an argument that the opponents have actually made. Examples are easy to find: https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2010-06955-009 https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2010-06955-009 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28895004/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28895004/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22464592/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22464592/
cstrahan 7y ago
> They made up an entire unscientific claim to disprove. Search for "bilingual smarter". Here are a handful of articles that suggest that many, many people have already put forth (or at least entertained the possibility of) these claims over the years: --- Does being bilingual make you smarter? | British Council Research Finds That Bilingual People Are Smarter, More Creative And Empathetic | Lifehack Are Bilingual People Smarter Than People Who Speak One Language? | JSTOR Daily Why Bilinguals Are Smarter | Association for Psychological Science How Being Bilingual Makes You Smarter | Grammarly Why Bilingual Kids Are Smarter | Bilingual Kidspot Are Bilinguals Really Smarter? | Psychology Today --- Could you provide any sources that suggest that the authors initiated this discourse?
knzhou 7y ago
Isn't that literally the claim the article posted here is making?