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Can you give an example for one such lie coming from Ram Dass? I'm not saying there isn't one because I'm not familiar with his work but I'm familiar with anoth
by krelian 7y ago
Can you give an example for one such lie coming from Ram Dass? I'm not saying there isn't one because I'm not familiar with his work but I'm familiar with another "flawed" guru, Alan Watts. And while you may not enjoy his ideas or think he is correct it would be very hard to call him a liar because what he does is simply take reality and give you another angle to look at it from.
These spiritual gurus are like a distinct type of art. Not everyone is partial to it but certain segments of the population are more likely to find something in it that moves them. You may call these people fools but it's not much different then holders of one political viewpoint viewing the holders of the opposing one as fools. These are just perspectives, there are no absolute right and wrongs here (leaving aside some extremes), because the human experience cannot be narrowed down to science.
- kilroy_jones 7y agoCan you point out where the people in my hospital example lied? If they never claimed to be doctors, but dressed up and acted as them, is it a lie? Lies come in many forms, some are explicit and others less so. I don't see them as fools, but as charismatic and intelligent people who have found a way to garner adoration, fame and other benefits by exploiting psychologically weak and vulnerable people. Whether they do so knowingly or not varies from guru to guru. I think many of them do start off with good intentions but quickly find themselves buying into the mystique others have built up around them. They are often as weak as their devotees. Dass falls into this camp in my mind. Is it wrong, no, but I feel it's important to point out.
- okareaman 7y ago> Is it wrong, no Yes you are wrong about Ram Dass. He was no Osho or Jim Jones.