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Talk is cheap. Talk that makes broad, vague accusations is cheap. Talk that makes accusations of the dead is cheap. Talk that makes accusations without backing

Talk is cheap. Talk that makes broad, vague accusations is cheap. Talk that makes accusations of the dead is cheap. Talk that makes accusations without backing them up with evidence is cheap. You just slung a boatload of cheap mud.

dang 7y ago
Ok, but please don't respond to one indignant comment with another. We're trying to avoid that here, and a thread about Ram Dass is a great place to work on it. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- swayvil 7y ago
  good point
kilroy_jones 7y ago
What has Ram Dass taught that was anything more than feel good self-help level material put into a palatable form fit for those wanting to hear soothing words? Sure, he was intelligent, had a PhD, and was a likeable guy. He also spent much of his early years doing drugs (LSD experiments) and bouncing around ashrams in India with less than reputable gurus. The guy was quoted as saying Jerry Garcia was a Bodhisattva, if that says anything about his state of mind. He was, like most gurus, exceedingly arrogant at times. 'It is useful here to remember that your guru, even though you may not have met him in his manifest form knows everything about you, everything.' Who says stuff like that? Dass was no more put together than anyone else, especially considering how he boucned around with ideas, even becoming a devout evangelical Christian at one point. The guy was put on a pedestal by people and he made the best of it. There is tons of stuff that weighs against the guy, but I'm on mobile and out and don't remember much. I don't consider him to be wholly malicious in his actions like many purported 'gurus,' but he is still a scam artist for letting others follow him while reaping the benefits.
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- brooklyndude 7y ago
  There would be no 60's generation w/o Ram Dass and Tim Leary. We would have continued the 1950's mind set. As they say, "those 2 just closed the door shut on the '50s, and blew our minds with what came next." Sounds like you are missing that part. I've attended Ram Dass lecture, he just blew us all away. He was that far out. He got it. He really did. Life, Death and what comes next. Just got it. Like no one else. He just did. HIGHLY suggest watch this one. Dying To Know - Ram Dass & Timothy Leary - Documentary https://youtu.be/WAAON4PjJTs https://youtu.be/WAAON4PjJTs

dang 7y ago

Ok, but please don't respond to one indignant comment with another. We're trying to avoid that here, and a thread about Ram Dass is a great place to work on it. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

swayvil 7y ago
good point

kilroy_jones 7y ago

What has Ram Dass taught that was anything more than feel good self-help level material put into a palatable form fit for those wanting to hear soothing words? Sure, he was intelligent, had a PhD, and was a likeable guy. He also spent much of his early years doing drugs (LSD experiments) and bouncing around ashrams in India with less than reputable gurus. The guy was quoted as saying Jerry Garcia was a Bodhisattva, if that says anything about his state of mind. He was, like most gurus, exceedingly arrogant at times. 'It is useful here to remember that your guru, even though you may not have met him in his manifest form knows everything about you, everything.' Who says stuff like that? Dass was no more put together than anyone else, especially considering how he boucned around with ideas, even becoming a devout evangelical Christian at one point. The guy was put on a pedestal by people and he made the best of it. There is tons of stuff that weighs against the guy, but I'm on mobile and out and don't remember much. I don't consider him to be wholly malicious in his actions like many purported 'gurus,' but he is still a scam artist for letting others follow him while reaping the benefits.

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brooklyndude 7y ago
There would be no 60's generation w/o Ram Dass and Tim Leary. We would have continued the 1950's mind set. As they say, "those 2 just closed the door shut on the '50s, and blew our minds with what came next." Sounds like you are missing that part. I've attended Ram Dass lecture, he just blew us all away. He was that far out. He got it. He really did. Life, Death and what comes next. Just got it. Like no one else. He just did. HIGHLY suggest watch this one. Dying To Know - Ram Dass & Timothy Leary - Documentary https://youtu.be/WAAON4PjJTs https://youtu.be/WAAON4PjJTs