> Most business in the United States is done despite of management, not because of it. I would not consider that so Geographically constrained. to me the most

> Most business in the United States is done despite of management, not because of it. I would not consider that so Geographically constrained. to me the most obvious textbook example [1] would be Nokia. I mean, there was no way the top management could have failed in the golden era of the dumb phones given the engineering talent (both for the electronics and the operations) within th ecompany. The single time when top management should/could have shown their value was the time when smartphones came. And they practically managed to destroy the company. I wonder if they themselves understand how literally clueless they were/are? [1] Admittably with zero actual inside information