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What part of the Porsche Taycan has been disappointing when compared to Tesla? My only complaint is the price, but it's a Porsche so what can I do?

onlyrealcuzzo 7y ago
Second. The Taycan release looks very promising. Porsche seems poised to eat the majority of profits from this space with the Taycan. There's not a lot of money to be made selling baseline Model 3s. And Toyota & Honda et al will soon be coming for the entry level space. Tesla seems like they'll be around for the long haul. But it doesn't seem like they're going to be highly profitable with a small market share like Porsche or Mercedes. It also doesn't seem like they're going to be the next Toyota. But my crystal ball isn't working. I have no idea what will happen.
- AnthonyMouse 7y ago
  It's pretty likely that the incumbents will get competitive electric cars on the market eventually. The real question is, how much of the overall vehicle market will Tesla have before that happens? Because the longer it takes, the longer Tesla has to convert profits from existing models into developing new models and reducing manufacturing costs and the more likely it is that they become the electric Toyota. But it'd be a lot harder for Tesla to grow that big if the incumbents were to provide meaningful electric competition in the near term.
bryanlarsen 7y ago
EPA range of only 201 miles despite having a 93 kWh battery.
- spike021 7y ago
  I would say that's less a disappointing bit and more just a factor of if it fits a potential buyer's needs. Even with ICE cars, people have always compared multiple cars' EPA/mileage, drivability, etc. It's hardly a new issue.
  - ecpottinger 7y ago
    Yet the Tesla does 375 miles with a 100 kWh battery. Do the math.
    - spike021 7y ago
      Like I said, for decades different cars have had different EPA. I'm not sure why in this case it should be some special factor.
      - spullara 7y ago
        If it was higher performance or something maybe? But an inferior performing car with worse mileage doesn't seem great.
        spike021 7y ago
        How is it "an inferior performing car" aside from lower mileage? Any sources? Genuinely curious.
msh 7y ago
Pricewise i don't think you can compare it to the standard tesla (s an d m), it's in a different league.
figers 7y ago
actual range vs what they're stating since it's less aerodynamic than tesla

onlyrealcuzzo 7y ago

Second. The Taycan release looks very promising. Porsche seems poised to eat the majority of profits from this space with the Taycan. There's not a lot of money to be made selling baseline Model 3s. And Toyota & Honda et al will soon be coming for the entry level space. Tesla seems like they'll be around for the long haul. But it doesn't seem like they're going to be highly profitable with a small market share like Porsche or Mercedes. It also doesn't seem like they're going to be the next Toyota. But my crystal ball isn't working. I have no idea what will happen.

AnthonyMouse 7y ago
It's pretty likely that the incumbents will get competitive electric cars on the market eventually. The real question is, how much of the overall vehicle market will Tesla have before that happens? Because the longer it takes, the longer Tesla has to convert profits from existing models into developing new models and reducing manufacturing costs and the more likely it is that they become the electric Toyota. But it'd be a lot harder for Tesla to grow that big if the incumbents were to provide meaningful electric competition in the near term.

bryanlarsen 7y ago

EPA range of only 201 miles despite having a 93 kWh battery.

spike021 7y ago
I would say that's less a disappointing bit and more just a factor of if it fits a potential buyer's needs. Even with ICE cars, people have always compared multiple cars' EPA/mileage, drivability, etc. It's hardly a new issue.
- ecpottinger 7y ago
  Yet the Tesla does 375 miles with a 100 kWh battery. Do the math.
  - spike021 7y ago
    Like I said, for decades different cars have had different EPA. I'm not sure why in this case it should be some special factor.
    - spullara 7y ago
      If it was higher performance or something maybe? But an inferior performing car with worse mileage doesn't seem great.
      - spike021 7y ago
        How is it "an inferior performing car" aside from lower mileage? Any sources? Genuinely curious.

msh 7y ago

Pricewise i don't think you can compare it to the standard tesla (s an d m), it's in a different league.

figers 7y ago

actual range vs what they're stating since it's less aerodynamic than tesla