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I'm 6'2" and my knees used to be painfully squeezed into seats and everything was incredibly uncomfortable on flights. At the time I weighed 275lb. I've since l

I'm 6'2" and my knees used to be painfully squeezed into seats and everything was incredibly uncomfortable on flights. At the time I weighed 275lb. I've since lost weight and I was surprised how much more comfortable flying is. You wouldn't think being obese would impact knees not having enough space, but my ass shrank in multiple directions and I have about four to five inches of free space now between the seat in front of me and my knees. Unless you're much taller than I am, it's likely that losing weight will not just help with your health, but make flying more comfortable. If you are taller, well, life sucks for us tall people in many ways and we can't expect airlines to build comfortable seats for people two or three standard deviations beyond the normal height.

AdrianB1 7y ago
There is no normal height. https://www.thestar.com/news/insight/2016/01/16/when-us-air-force-discovered-the-flaw-of-averages.html https://www.thestar.com/news/insight/2016/01/16/when-us-air-...
- rosybox 7y ago
  > There is no normal height. There more certainly is a statistically average height. > Out of 4,063 pilots, not a single airman fit within the average range on all 10 dimensions. This article is comparing 10 dimensions of variability and we're talking about just one here, the one you yourself mentioned, height.
  - AdrianB1 7y ago
    Statistically or mathematically average height does not equal normal height, it has no relevance in this discussion. If you read the article, the average does not fit most people even if you take a single dimension, height.
    - SAI_Peregrinus 7y ago
      Within one standard deviation of the mean does, by definition, fit most people for a normally distributed factor like height. (64% > 50%, thus most). "Within 1 standard deviation of the mean" is a decent (if possibly overly strict) definition for "normal" in this context.
      - AdrianB1 7y ago
        Read the article in the link and then explain your comment.
fooster 7y ago
I'm 6ft, 190lbs so not substantially overweight. Airlines like Air Canada Rouge have a 29" seat pitch in standard economy. I find that very uncomfortable. Even their upgraded seats are very tight for me with my knees pressed up against the seat infront of me unless I sit bolt upright. On many leisure routes from Toronto there is very little choice in flights either, so pay more means pay their business class rate which is quite expensive, or well go some very complex non-direct routing. All of these options are horrible.

AdrianB1 7y ago

There is no normal height. https://www.thestar.com/news/insight/2016/01/16/when-us-air-force-discovered-the-flaw-of-averages.html https://www.thestar.com/news/insight/2016/01/16/when-us-air-...

rosybox 7y ago
> There is no normal height. There more certainly is a statistically average height. > Out of 4,063 pilots, not a single airman fit within the average range on all 10 dimensions. This article is comparing 10 dimensions of variability and we're talking about just one here, the one you yourself mentioned, height.
- AdrianB1 7y ago
  Statistically or mathematically average height does not equal normal height, it has no relevance in this discussion. If you read the article, the average does not fit most people even if you take a single dimension, height.
  - SAI_Peregrinus 7y ago
    Within one standard deviation of the mean does, by definition, fit most people for a normally distributed factor like height. (64% > 50%, thus most). "Within 1 standard deviation of the mean" is a decent (if possibly overly strict) definition for "normal" in this context.
    - AdrianB1 7y ago
      Read the article in the link and then explain your comment.

fooster 7y ago

I'm 6ft, 190lbs so not substantially overweight. Airlines like Air Canada Rouge have a 29" seat pitch in standard economy. I find that very uncomfortable. Even their upgraded seats are very tight for me with my knees pressed up against the seat infront of me unless I sit bolt upright. On many leisure routes from Toronto there is very little choice in flights either, so pay more means pay their business class rate which is quite expensive, or well go some very complex non-direct routing. All of these options are horrible.