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I'm unsure of if the American government is just extremely discreet in their development of cyber warfare technology or America just isn't investing in technolo

I'm unsure of if the American government is just extremely discreet in their development of cyber warfare technology or America just isn't investing in technology as much as other countries. But it seems like even Russia is beating us... Just look at our voting count machines. You think something like that would be treated with extreme priority and would have a lot more security around it than it does.

noir_lord 7y ago
Given the size of the US military budget and their propensity for black projects (which given they are a democracy they kind of have to do since almost everything in the regular military gets released/leaked) I'd be positively amazed if they didn't have a serious black program for this stuff. Given the risk/reward and how cheap it is to do compared to a single B2 or a handful of F35's at least.
DeonPenny 7y ago
No people just don't assume very obvious defense spending is the US doing so. SV was built in its very beginning was built for the US army. It still is with startups like Palantír.
CharlesColeman 7y ago
> Just look at our voting count machines. You think something like that would be treated with extreme priority and would have a lot more security around it than it does. If the priority was to build a good system. However, powerful government factions think that all government development must be farmed wholesale to private business, because of a twisted ideological belief in the market. Those private businesses are ruled by the ideology that shareholder value is the ultimate and only good, so they slap their products together as cheaply as possible. The result of that toxic stew is that we can't have nice things.
kmonsen 7y ago
For the voting machines you have to remember a large part of the US political class have coinciding interests with Russia here, they want those machines to be hacked. If there was an actual cyber war I am confident the US can hold it's own if it wants to.

noir_lord 7y ago

Given the size of the US military budget and their propensity for black projects (which given they are a democracy they kind of have to do since almost everything in the regular military gets released/leaked) I'd be positively amazed if they didn't have a serious black program for this stuff. Given the risk/reward and how cheap it is to do compared to a single B2 or a handful of F35's at least.

DeonPenny 7y ago

No people just don't assume very obvious defense spending is the US doing so. SV was built in its very beginning was built for the US army. It still is with startups like Palantír.

CharlesColeman 7y ago

> Just look at our voting count machines. You think something like that would be treated with extreme priority and would have a lot more security around it than it does. If the priority was to build a good system. However, powerful government factions think that all government development must be farmed wholesale to private business, because of a twisted ideological belief in the market. Those private businesses are ruled by the ideology that shareholder value is the ultimate and only good, so they slap their products together as cheaply as possible. The result of that toxic stew is that we can't have nice things.

kmonsen 7y ago

For the voting machines you have to remember a large part of the US political class have coinciding interests with Russia here, they want those machines to be hacked. If there was an actual cyber war I am confident the US can hold it's own if it wants to.