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Come on my man, you can see why it's a big deal. Maybe one day it won't be, but today it is.

big_chungus 7y ago
No, I don't, and I believe there's a site guideline about assuming good faith. The best rationale I've heard is from your sibling comment by simion314, but he himself qualified that specific cases are useless with respect to averages.
- somehnguy 7y ago
  Because it hasn't happened before. This isn't exactly rocket science difficulty levels of understanding.
- jmull 7y ago
  Hm... your first inclination was to think you "must be missing something". Why not follow up on that thread? What you're missing is all of the context around this, both historical and current, which advance the idea that women ought not to even have the opportunity to compete in darts with men. More generally, women have very often been denied opportunities afforded to men across the board, based simply on their gender. (Personally, I don't have a special interest in women's issues, but I do have an interest in fairness and justice and basic human rights. From that perspective, breaking down a bullshit barrier keeping a group down based on superficial traits is awesome.)
  - antisthenes 7y ago
    > What you're missing is all of the context around this, both historical and current, which advance the idea that women ought not to even have the opportunity to compete in darts with men. Oof. If I ever write a book about logical fallacies, I'll put these words right next to the strawman one. When I came into this thread, prior to reading the comments, my first thought was to be curious as to why women wouldn't be just as good at darts as men are. After all, no physical advantage typical of men is needed to win at darts. Strength is irrelevant here. So is reaction time. Have women in particular been denied the opportunity to play competitive darts? Don't generalize it, just think about the darts field. If that is true, then you can say you've made an argument in good faith.
    - jmull 7y ago
      How can context be a logical fallacy? Context is just a set of commonly understood facts and arguments that aren’t stated under the assumption the audience is either already aware or can become so without too much trouble.
      - antisthenes 7y ago
        Your argument was a strawman, which is a logical fallacy. I'm not sure how I can be more clear.
- adamsea 7y ago
  > and I believe there's a site guideline about assuming good faith. ... so, you are trying to game the system by taking advantage of site guidelines?

No, I don't, and I believe there's a site guideline about assuming good faith. The best rationale I've heard is from your sibling comment by simion314, but he himself qualified that specific cases are useless with respect to averages.

somehnguy 7y ago
Because it hasn't happened before. This isn't exactly rocket science difficulty levels of understanding.
jmull 7y ago
Hm... your first inclination was to think you "must be missing something". Why not follow up on that thread? What you're missing is all of the context around this, both historical and current, which advance the idea that women ought not to even have the opportunity to compete in darts with men. More generally, women have very often been denied opportunities afforded to men across the board, based simply on their gender. (Personally, I don't have a special interest in women's issues, but I do have an interest in fairness and justice and basic human rights. From that perspective, breaking down a bullshit barrier keeping a group down based on superficial traits is awesome.)
- antisthenes 7y ago
  > What you're missing is all of the context around this, both historical and current, which advance the idea that women ought not to even have the opportunity to compete in darts with men. Oof. If I ever write a book about logical fallacies, I'll put these words right next to the strawman one. When I came into this thread, prior to reading the comments, my first thought was to be curious as to why women wouldn't be just as good at darts as men are. After all, no physical advantage typical of men is needed to win at darts. Strength is irrelevant here. So is reaction time. Have women in particular been denied the opportunity to play competitive darts? Don't generalize it, just think about the darts field. If that is true, then you can say you've made an argument in good faith.
  - jmull 7y ago
    How can context be a logical fallacy? Context is just a set of commonly understood facts and arguments that aren’t stated under the assumption the audience is either already aware or can become so without too much trouble.
    - antisthenes 7y ago
      Your argument was a strawman, which is a logical fallacy. I'm not sure how I can be more clear.
adamsea 7y ago
> and I believe there's a site guideline about assuming good faith. ... so, you are trying to game the system by taking advantage of site guidelines?