Thanks for that, a marvellous listen! Really refreshing to hear two knowledgeable people who disagree on so many of the conclusions having such an engaging and

Thanks for that, a marvellous listen! Really refreshing to hear two knowledgeable people who disagree on so many of the conclusions having such an engaging and positive conversation. Then find shared common ground so easily with both good at staying on point. Nice to hear he had a high opinion of the book too -- outside those conclusions drawn. I'd have quite liked them to keep going... :)