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So what are you suggesting? We have the government create a lot of unproductive “make work” jobs for these people? Kick out those who want to work hard and esca

So what are you suggesting? We have the government create a lot of unproductive “make work” jobs for these people? Kick out those who want to work hard and escape poverty, but were unlucky to be born in a different country?

adamsea 7y ago
Create affordable housing. Universal healthcare. Basic income. Perhaps universal higher education. Actually collect taxes from the very very large companies (Apple Amazon, etc).
- xyzzyz 7y ago
  > Create affordable housing. There's tons of affordable housing in the country. > Universal healthcare. If you show up at ER, they cannot legally refuse you healthcare. They'll bill you a lot, but since you're homeless, fortunately you'll never get it in mail. > Basic income. And when the basic income check gets immediately exchanged for drugs, what then? How does it help? > Perhaps universal higher education. That would destroy most of the value of higher education. If everyone has a degree, it makes a degree worthless: outside of some small percentage of students, higher education don't really teach anything useful, it's value is mostly in certifying that you're a kind of person who is smart enough to get admitted, and conscientious enough to jump through required hoops. > Actually collect taxes from the very very large companies (Apple Amazon, etc). How much do you think you'd be able to collect from them? We already pull trillions in taxes. Is everything else so much higher priority that we couldn't already shift our spending to fix this problem? Really, this is not a problem of lack of resources, though your eagerness to tax the big bad business shows where your priorities are.
i_am_nomad 7y ago
I haven't suggested anything, except that the problem is much more complex than most people acknowledge, and that some causes of the problems seem to be deliberately ignored. That being said, I would recommend universal healthcare, vouchers for free daycare for lower-income Americans, and a new omnibus of worker protections to allow more humane workplaces (sorry, Amazon and Tyson Chicken). Also, much more vigorous prosecution and sentencing of those who employ illegal immigrants.

adamsea 7y ago

Create affordable housing. Universal healthcare. Basic income. Perhaps universal higher education. Actually collect taxes from the very very large companies (Apple Amazon, etc).

xyzzyz 7y ago
> Create affordable housing. There's tons of affordable housing in the country. > Universal healthcare. If you show up at ER, they cannot legally refuse you healthcare. They'll bill you a lot, but since you're homeless, fortunately you'll never get it in mail. > Basic income. And when the basic income check gets immediately exchanged for drugs, what then? How does it help? > Perhaps universal higher education. That would destroy most of the value of higher education. If everyone has a degree, it makes a degree worthless: outside of some small percentage of students, higher education don't really teach anything useful, it's value is mostly in certifying that you're a kind of person who is smart enough to get admitted, and conscientious enough to jump through required hoops. > Actually collect taxes from the very very large companies (Apple Amazon, etc). How much do you think you'd be able to collect from them? We already pull trillions in taxes. Is everything else so much higher priority that we couldn't already shift our spending to fix this problem? Really, this is not a problem of lack of resources, though your eagerness to tax the big bad business shows where your priorities are.

i_am_nomad 7y ago

I haven't suggested anything, except that the problem is much more complex than most people acknowledge, and that some causes of the problems seem to be deliberately ignored. That being said, I would recommend universal healthcare, vouchers for free daycare for lower-income Americans, and a new omnibus of worker protections to allow more humane workplaces (sorry, Amazon and Tyson Chicken). Also, much more vigorous prosecution and sentencing of those who employ illegal immigrants.