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And by “we” I presume you mean Asia and South America [1]. By blaming the US and European countries, Greta & co are barking the wrong tree. What we really need

by cm2187 7y ago

And by “we” I presume you mean Asia and South America [1]. By blaming the US and European countries, Greta & co are barking the wrong tree. What we really need is to get China off coal to make a dent. The EU and US have been doing some decent progress already. [1] https://cdn.zmescience.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Global-CO2-emissions-by-region-since-1751.png https://cdn.zmescience.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Global...

pier25 7y ago
No, by "we" I mean humanity. Edit: Also that graph doesn't show emissions per capita which is the metric that really matters. https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.economicshelp.org%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2014%2F03%2Fco2-emissions-per-capita.png&f=1&nofb=1 https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2F... Also see this about cumulative emissions: https://wriorg.s3.amazonaws.com/s3fs-public/uploads/cumulative_emissions.png https://wriorg.s3.amazonaws.com/s3fs-public/uploads/cumulati... The US is still the country that has emitted more CO2.
- cm2187 7y ago
  It’s not the consumption per capita that matters to the climate.
  - pier25 7y ago
    You shifted the conversation to responsibility by country/region.
    - cm2187 7y ago
      That’s a breakdown, not a ratio.
kilroy_jones 7y ago
Americans consume way more than the average person in S. America or China and produce way more CO2 per capita.
adrianN 7y ago
The EU and the US have not made decent progress if you measure it by likelihood of staying under 2° of warming. Both have goals that are incompatible with the Paris agreement, and they're not even meeting those weak ambitions.