I'm saying that we don't need to know what those numbers are to know there's a problem. You're asking leading questions which contain a lot of presuppositions,

I'm saying that we don't need to know what those numbers are to know there's a problem. You're asking leading questions which contain a lot of presuppositions, and you're ignoring my post in which I specifically reject those presuppositions, which makes it hard for me to believe that you're just trying to learn.