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Except for the hundreds of thousands of europeans who travel exclusively by bike and train (100% renewables here), are vegan, eat local all year round, own a fa

by j-pb 7y ago

Except for the hundreds of thousands of europeans who travel exclusively by bike and train (100% renewables here), are vegan, eat local all year round, own a fairphone, and invest their money into renewables. But sure project your unwillingness for mild inconvenience in return for a sustainable lifestyle onto others. Going 100% green doesn't mean 0% fossil fuel btw, it can also mean that said fossil fuel is offset with CO2 capturing projects like reforestation or rewetting bogs. Besides, the whole point of the article is that it doesn't have to be mutually exclusive to make money and switch 100% to renewable energy sources. The whole point of government is to pool resources and coordinate policy so that the collective can achieve goals that would not be achievable by individuals. One can could easily invert you argument to expose its fallacies: "These conservatives are only good at spending other peoples money on the military budget and sending other peoples children to die. We should all give them a gun paid for by their personal funds and send THEM to fight overseas."

m0zg 7y ago
>> Except for the hundreds of thousands of europeans There are dozens of them! Dozens! >> CO2 capturing projects like reforestation Reforestation does diddly squat for CO2 capture. It's beneficial in other aspects, though. Prevents soil erosion. Creates habitat. Just doesn't capture much CO2. >> doesn't have to be mutually exclusive to make money and switch 100% to renewable energy sources Seems like that's exactly the point. You can't be 100% "green" without going back to what is essentially pre-industrial living. You can certainly pretend being "green" though, and virtue signal about it. I hate to break it to you, but your e.g. Germans (or Europeans of any other locale which has an actual winter) aren't "eating local all year round" _especially_ if they're "vegan", unless they somehow subsist on a ration of storable root vegetables and grain like people did 150-200 years ago.

by j-pb 7y ago

m0zg 7y ago

>> Except for the hundreds of thousands of europeans There are dozens of them! Dozens! >> CO2 capturing projects like reforestation Reforestation does diddly squat for CO2 capture. It's beneficial in other aspects, though. Prevents soil erosion. Creates habitat. Just doesn't capture much CO2. >> doesn't have to be mutually exclusive to make money and switch 100% to renewable energy sources Seems like that's exactly the point. You can't be 100% "green" without going back to what is essentially pre-industrial living. You can certainly pretend being "green" though, and virtue signal about it. I hate to break it to you, but your e.g. Germans (or Europeans of any other locale which has an actual winter) aren't "eating local all year round" _especially_ if they're "vegan", unless they somehow subsist on a ration of storable root vegetables and grain like people did 150-200 years ago.