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This will go down on your permanent record

72 points by peter_retief 7y ago

14 7y ago
I have seen this before and it is truly disturbing for those who have come to the comments first. It shows a man locked in a tiger chair being questioned as to why he talked badly about the police on a forum. He is completely restrained. I can only imagine the feeling. This is disturbing so please be warned. How can we make a difference as an individual?
- mirimir 7y ago
  All you can do is boycott Chinese stuff, and not invest in Chinese firms. And promote the boycott. It worked against apartheid in South Africa. But that was pretty easy. Avoiding Chinese stuff is much harder.
  - moksly 7y ago
    Can you even buy a smartphone, or even a computer without buying things from China in 2019? Especially if you’re not American.
    - mirimir 7y ago
      Hey, I posted as honestly as possible. But yes, it'd be very hard to avoid buying from China. So what's possible? Political action? That seems unlikely too. It'd be hard even as a country to boycott China. The US economy would collapse if it tried, I bet.
boring_twenties 7y ago
Someone was able to film this and make it public? I'd love to know the story behind that.
- Joe-Z 7y ago
  3rd time I've seen this posted now and never with a source. I'm curious also!
  - paganel 7y ago
    Because the source would probably be re-educated to death by now. Not sure why people expect 21st century levels of public discourse from a country that literally has re-education centers for tens of thousands of people (if not not more) who have the only fault of being of the wrong religion.
- jackpirate 7y ago
  I would like to see the evidence that this isn't just some actors in costumes. It's easy to believe something like this happened in real life and got video taped. Certainly more unbelievable things have been caught on film. But it's also easy to believe it's a hoax, and it'd be an easy hoax to pull off.
  - rayhendricks 7y ago
    Yes to be the devils advocate get, what if this really is a hoax to get the rest of the world riled up against China? Except that we do have leaks like the China cables which are generally viewed a as authentic. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Cables https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Cables IMO the rest of the wield needs to realize that this is nazi germany levels of crazy that are starting up again, and realize that Bernie ww3 breaks out.
rococode 7y ago
I saw this video a few weeks ago and wondered, how does a video like this get released? It sounds like the person recording is also doing the questioning, and it also doesn't feel like this is the kind of video that would be willingly shared as propaganda. So why is it online? It actually makes me slightly doubt whether it's real or faked. I mean, it's not that hard to get 2 fake police outfits and a room and put together a fancy chair. And they do pan away pretty suddenly from the police officers. And why even show the police officers, like hey check out these two totally real cops? Why are they even recording in the first place? I'm not saying it's actually fake, but for me enough things don't quite add up that I personally chose to go with "this doesn't affect my opinions because I have no clue if it's true or not" on this one. It's slightly worrisome that outside of HN (I've seen this on Reddit and in other tweets) I have not seen doubt expressed in any way. I think it's generally good to doubt things and we may be in big trouble if the global trend is to believe everything you see.
- oaiey 7y ago
  Or the smart phone got repaired (and cloned), or the guy had a bad conscious afterwards, or he shared it with friends who then published it etc. So many reasons.
- advaita 7y ago
  I hope for the sake of person being interrogated that it is fake but this could be a tactic for intimidating other protestors who are not firmly committed and have other responsibilities in life to worry about.
  - heavyset_go 7y ago
    This video goes into reasons why videos like this exist and are in ample supply: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8PgCUap1Vg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8PgCUap1Vg Public displays of criminals, trials and punishments are not uncommon in China, and serve as a "legal education" for the public.
    - dessant 7y ago
etagobla 7y ago
Does anyone have evidence that this video is real? If not, and you're having an emotional reaction anyway, you're part of the problem.

72 points by peter_retief 7y ago

14 7y ago

I have seen this before and it is truly disturbing for those who have come to the comments first. It shows a man locked in a tiger chair being questioned as to why he talked badly about the police on a forum. He is completely restrained. I can only imagine the feeling. This is disturbing so please be warned. How can we make a difference as an individual?

mirimir 7y ago
All you can do is boycott Chinese stuff, and not invest in Chinese firms. And promote the boycott. It worked against apartheid in South Africa. But that was pretty easy. Avoiding Chinese stuff is much harder.
- moksly 7y ago
  Can you even buy a smartphone, or even a computer without buying things from China in 2019? Especially if you’re not American.
  - mirimir 7y ago
    Hey, I posted as honestly as possible. But yes, it'd be very hard to avoid buying from China. So what's possible? Political action? That seems unlikely too. It'd be hard even as a country to boycott China. The US economy would collapse if it tried, I bet.

boring_twenties 7y ago

Someone was able to film this and make it public? I'd love to know the story behind that.

Joe-Z 7y ago
3rd time I've seen this posted now and never with a source. I'm curious also!
- paganel 7y ago
  Because the source would probably be re-educated to death by now. Not sure why people expect 21st century levels of public discourse from a country that literally has re-education centers for tens of thousands of people (if not not more) who have the only fault of being of the wrong religion.
jackpirate 7y ago
I would like to see the evidence that this isn't just some actors in costumes. It's easy to believe something like this happened in real life and got video taped. Certainly more unbelievable things have been caught on film. But it's also easy to believe it's a hoax, and it'd be an easy hoax to pull off.
- rayhendricks 7y ago
  Yes to be the devils advocate get, what if this really is a hoax to get the rest of the world riled up against China? Except that we do have leaks like the China cables which are generally viewed a as authentic. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Cables https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Cables IMO the rest of the wield needs to realize that this is nazi germany levels of crazy that are starting up again, and realize that Bernie ww3 breaks out.

rococode 7y ago

I saw this video a few weeks ago and wondered, how does a video like this get released? It sounds like the person recording is also doing the questioning, and it also doesn't feel like this is the kind of video that would be willingly shared as propaganda. So why is it online? It actually makes me slightly doubt whether it's real or faked. I mean, it's not that hard to get 2 fake police outfits and a room and put together a fancy chair. And they do pan away pretty suddenly from the police officers. And why even show the police officers, like hey check out these two totally real cops? Why are they even recording in the first place? I'm not saying it's actually fake, but for me enough things don't quite add up that I personally chose to go with "this doesn't affect my opinions because I have no clue if it's true or not" on this one. It's slightly worrisome that outside of HN (I've seen this on Reddit and in other tweets) I have not seen doubt expressed in any way. I think it's generally good to doubt things and we may be in big trouble if the global trend is to believe everything you see.

oaiey 7y ago
Or the smart phone got repaired (and cloned), or the guy had a bad conscious afterwards, or he shared it with friends who then published it etc. So many reasons.
advaita 7y ago
I hope for the sake of person being interrogated that it is fake but this could be a tactic for intimidating other protestors who are not firmly committed and have other responsibilities in life to worry about.
- heavyset_go 7y ago
  This video goes into reasons why videos like this exist and are in ample supply: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8PgCUap1Vg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8PgCUap1Vg Public displays of criminals, trials and punishments are not uncommon in China, and serve as a "legal education" for the public.
  - dessant 7y ago

etagobla 7y ago

Does anyone have evidence that this video is real? If not, and you're having an emotional reaction anyway, you're part of the problem.