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For anyone that hasn't seen it, _Cities Without Suburbs_ is a book that lays out the case that fragmentation and infighting are a major hindrance on American me

For anyone that hasn't seen it, _Cities Without Suburbs_ is a book that lays out the case that fragmentation and infighting are a major hindrance on American metro areas. San Francisco is bounded on all sides from expanding, so it's partially at the mercy of its suburbs when it comes to things like housing. Has there ever been a movement to consolidate the Bay Area like how Nashville consolidated 14(?) counties with the city itself?

x3n0ph3n3 7y ago
Given how poorly San Francisco is run and how corrupt its politics are, I don't think anyone outside of San Francisco would want that.
- CoolGuySteve 7y ago
  Silicon Valley could at least consolidate. I used to live on the border of Cupertino and Sunnyvale. The sales tax was different depending on which side of Homestead Rd I was on. What was the fucking point of that? Were the culture and values of Sunnyvale really that antithetical to those of Cupertino? It would be really nice if one of these parking lot hamlets actually did act differently and zone themselves to be super dense but when I left councilors were still mostly arguing about public WiFi and paying millions to water those plants in the road dividers all summer long.
  - masonic 7y ago
    ...on the border of Cupertino and Sunnyvale. The sales tax was different depending on which side of Homestead No, that's never been the case. Neither Sunnyvale nor Cupertino has a city sales tax.
    - masonic 7y ago
      Um, downvoters, it's the truth. City-specific sales tax is rare in CA; generally, parcel taxes, bonds, etc. are pursued instead.
      - x3n0ph3n3 7y ago
        He's probably confusing his cities. Santa Clara has a 0.25% city sales tax, among other cities in the county: https://www.salestaxhandbook.com/california/rates/santa-clara-county https://www.salestaxhandbook.com/california/rates/santa-clar... San Mateo county also has a few cities with their own sales tax: https://www.salestaxhandbook.com/california/rates/san-mateo-county https://www.salestaxhandbook.com/california/rates/san-mateo-...
wbl 7y ago
San Francisco added 13 jobs for every home over the past decade, making it by far the worst housing actor. The suburbs of SF are the whole western half of the city.
Apocryphon 7y ago
That's what happened to San Jose in the '50s-'60s: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A._P._Hamann https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A._P._Hamann

x3n0ph3n3 7y ago

Given how poorly San Francisco is run and how corrupt its politics are, I don't think anyone outside of San Francisco would want that.

CoolGuySteve 7y ago
Silicon Valley could at least consolidate. I used to live on the border of Cupertino and Sunnyvale. The sales tax was different depending on which side of Homestead Rd I was on. What was the fucking point of that? Were the culture and values of Sunnyvale really that antithetical to those of Cupertino? It would be really nice if one of these parking lot hamlets actually did act differently and zone themselves to be super dense but when I left councilors were still mostly arguing about public WiFi and paying millions to water those plants in the road dividers all summer long.
- masonic 7y ago
  ...on the border of Cupertino and Sunnyvale. The sales tax was different depending on which side of Homestead No, that's never been the case. Neither Sunnyvale nor Cupertino has a city sales tax.
  - masonic 7y ago
    Um, downvoters, it's the truth. City-specific sales tax is rare in CA; generally, parcel taxes, bonds, etc. are pursued instead.
    - x3n0ph3n3 7y ago
      He's probably confusing his cities. Santa Clara has a 0.25% city sales tax, among other cities in the county: https://www.salestaxhandbook.com/california/rates/santa-clara-county https://www.salestaxhandbook.com/california/rates/santa-clar... San Mateo county also has a few cities with their own sales tax: https://www.salestaxhandbook.com/california/rates/san-mateo-county https://www.salestaxhandbook.com/california/rates/san-mateo-...

wbl 7y ago

San Francisco added 13 jobs for every home over the past decade, making it by far the worst housing actor. The suburbs of SF are the whole western half of the city.

Apocryphon 7y ago

That's what happened to San Jose in the '50s-'60s: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A._P._Hamann https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A._P._Hamann