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If I "win", Google dissolves its political action committee and no longer makes direct campaign contributions. I don't follow your argument.

sandoooo 7y ago
I doubt it. I notice you are only agitating against specific donations toward Republicans, rather than all contributions in general. What's the least-effort way for Google to avoid the bad publicity you are seeking to inflict? Stop donations to those specific people, obviously. And let the ratio of donations get skewed. I think you would find that this is the exact outcome that many people on 'your side' are hoping for.
- idlewords 7y ago
  Read the actual threads? I show examples of what I believe are indefensible donations, and end every one with a plea for employees to de-fund the PAC in its entirety. I can't help it if we're in a polarized environment where the Democratic party doesn't elect climate denialists, homophobes or white nationalists to office too. Maybe next year.
  - sandoooo 7y ago
    I'm sure you have very good reasons to believe the things you do. It doesn't change the consequences of your actions.
Mirioron 7y ago
So, you prefer that they peddle in political influence in ways other than money instead? Things that are harder to track and follow? Because companies as large as Google cannot afford not to.
- sandoooo 7y ago
  If I were running the whole show, I'd introduce new laws that classify any private for-profit corporation with valuation above a certain percentage of the GDP as special entities that are not allowed to express any political opinion whatsoever. They would also need to accept additional auditing and transparency measures to enforce this. I'd set this limit high enough that only 50 or so companies need to do this at any one time. I would set up a dedicated department whose entire job is to watch Google - and only Google - like a hawk. Same with FB. Alas, I am not actually running the show, so for now I would just like people to realize that we're all in a big hole here and they should stop digging.
  - votepaunchy 7y ago
    > classify any private for-profit corporation with valuation above a certain percentage of the GDP as special entities that are not allowed to express any political opinion whatsoever I’d be okay with this as long as you also banned these companies from assembling, allowing all employees to telework.

sandoooo 7y ago

I doubt it. I notice you are only agitating against specific donations toward Republicans, rather than all contributions in general. What's the least-effort way for Google to avoid the bad publicity you are seeking to inflict? Stop donations to those specific people, obviously. And let the ratio of donations get skewed. I think you would find that this is the exact outcome that many people on 'your side' are hoping for.

idlewords 7y ago
Read the actual threads? I show examples of what I believe are indefensible donations, and end every one with a plea for employees to de-fund the PAC in its entirety. I can't help it if we're in a polarized environment where the Democratic party doesn't elect climate denialists, homophobes or white nationalists to office too. Maybe next year.
- sandoooo 7y ago
  I'm sure you have very good reasons to believe the things you do. It doesn't change the consequences of your actions.

Mirioron 7y ago

So, you prefer that they peddle in political influence in ways other than money instead? Things that are harder to track and follow? Because companies as large as Google cannot afford not to.

sandoooo 7y ago
If I were running the whole show, I'd introduce new laws that classify any private for-profit corporation with valuation above a certain percentage of the GDP as special entities that are not allowed to express any political opinion whatsoever. They would also need to accept additional auditing and transparency measures to enforce this. I'd set this limit high enough that only 50 or so companies need to do this at any one time. I would set up a dedicated department whose entire job is to watch Google - and only Google - like a hawk. Same with FB. Alas, I am not actually running the show, so for now I would just like people to realize that we're all in a big hole here and they should stop digging.
- votepaunchy 7y ago
  > classify any private for-profit corporation with valuation above a certain percentage of the GDP as special entities that are not allowed to express any political opinion whatsoever I’d be okay with this as long as you also banned these companies from assembling, allowing all employees to telework.