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Reading your comment melts my mind as a Linux user. You can't just set your vpn connection as the default route? What's even the point if it's not the default

Reading your comment melts my mind as a Linux user. You can't just set your vpn connection as the default route? What's even the point if it's not the default route? Applications (at least on Linux) have no idea what device they are using. They just request a connection to an IP and it's the kernels job to route that request correctly.

nl 7y ago
Of course Windows can (and does usually) use a VPN as an active route. The poster just doesn't know what they are talking about. In particular this sentence is complete nonsense: I'm sick of the idea that Windows perceives an internet connection somehow, hides it from me, and automatically makes it available to everything that asks for "the internet". But I don't actually know how to do this. Someone is working really, really hard to make sure I don't affect who uses what device. As usual, MS has pretty decent documentation on this: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/drivers/mobilebroadband/understanding-and-configuring-windows-connection-manager https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/drivers/mo... I don't particularly like the GUI_centric nature of much of it, but the complaint itself is completely ill-informed.
- dahfizz 7y ago
  I had a feeling that this was just an uninformed user, thank you for clarifying.
  - thaumasiotes 7y ago
    You've described the same system I just said I didn't want. But I'm uninformed for complaining that I want something different? > Applications (at least on Linux) have no idea what device they are using. They just request a connection to an IP and it's the kernels job to route that request correctly. This is a bad idea. I want to connect the application to the device I think it should use. It shouldn't be able to find anything I don't tell it about.
    - nl 7y ago
      >> Applications (at least on Linux) have no idea what device they are using. They just request a connection to an IP and it's the kernels job to route that request correctly. > This is a bad idea. I want to connect the application to the device I think it should use. It shouldn't be able to find anything I don't tell it about. Telling applications about resources is literally what the operating system is for. Both Linux and Windows let you do what you want.

nl 7y ago

Of course Windows can (and does usually) use a VPN as an active route. The poster just doesn't know what they are talking about. In particular this sentence is complete nonsense: I'm sick of the idea that Windows perceives an internet connection somehow, hides it from me, and automatically makes it available to everything that asks for "the internet". But I don't actually know how to do this. Someone is working really, really hard to make sure I don't affect who uses what device. As usual, MS has pretty decent documentation on this: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/drivers/mobilebroadband/understanding-and-configuring-windows-connection-manager https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/drivers/mo... I don't particularly like the GUI_centric nature of much of it, but the complaint itself is completely ill-informed.

dahfizz 7y ago
I had a feeling that this was just an uninformed user, thank you for clarifying.
- thaumasiotes 7y ago
  You've described the same system I just said I didn't want. But I'm uninformed for complaining that I want something different? > Applications (at least on Linux) have no idea what device they are using. They just request a connection to an IP and it's the kernels job to route that request correctly. This is a bad idea. I want to connect the application to the device I think it should use. It shouldn't be able to find anything I don't tell it about.
  - nl 7y ago
    >> Applications (at least on Linux) have no idea what device they are using. They just request a connection to an IP and it's the kernels job to route that request correctly. > This is a bad idea. I want to connect the application to the device I think it should use. It shouldn't be able to find anything I don't tell it about. Telling applications about resources is literally what the operating system is for. Both Linux and Windows let you do what you want.