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> Boeing needs to try to own what it'll take to get their planes flying again. I think they will need to meet the EASA at the Canossa Castle so to speak for t

by chx 7y ago

> Boeing needs to try to own what it'll take to get their planes flying again. I think they will need to meet the EASA at the Canossa Castle so to speak for that plane to fly again. The FAA so completely screwed up the EASA won't trust a word from them for a very, very long while -- not only did they let Boeing effectively certify their own plane but when the fertilizer hit the circular cooling device and the EASA served them a face saving opportunity by not issuing an EU wide grounding order immediately but individual member countries, one by one, banned the plane from their airspace without grounding them. And the FAA didn't budge! Finally the EASA said, fine, the 737 MAX is grounded. And now all the trust and goodwill carefully built between the two authorities is all gone. Getting the MAX flying again in the USA is one thing, getting it through the EASA after this will be an entire different matter...

goldcd 7y ago
You're right. Every criticism Boeing needs to sort out, also needs to be handled by the FAA.
jrumbut 7y ago
+1 and I wish I could give more for Canossa, that's really what is missing. From Wikipedia: "The Road to Canossa...refers to Holy Roman Emperor Henry IV's trek to Canossa Castle, Italy, where Pope Gregory VII was staying as the guest of Margravine Matilda of Tuscany, at the height of the investiture controversy in January 1077 to seek absolution of his excommunication. According to contemporary sources, he was forced to humiliate himself on his knees waiting for three days and three nights before the entrance gate of the castle, while a blizzard raged. Indeed, the episode has been described as "one of the most dramatic moments of the Middle Age" https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Road_to_Canossa https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Road_to_Canossa I also really enjoy Norman Cantor's description in "Civilization in the Middle Ages," where he takes a more cynical view of the actions involved.

by chx 7y ago

goldcd 7y ago

You're right. Every criticism Boeing needs to sort out, also needs to be handled by the FAA.

jrumbut 7y ago

+1 and I wish I could give more for Canossa, that's really what is missing. From Wikipedia: "The Road to Canossa...refers to Holy Roman Emperor Henry IV's trek to Canossa Castle, Italy, where Pope Gregory VII was staying as the guest of Margravine Matilda of Tuscany, at the height of the investiture controversy in January 1077 to seek absolution of his excommunication. According to contemporary sources, he was forced to humiliate himself on his knees waiting for three days and three nights before the entrance gate of the castle, while a blizzard raged. Indeed, the episode has been described as "one of the most dramatic moments of the Middle Age" https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Road_to_Canossa https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Road_to_Canossa I also really enjoy Norman Cantor's description in "Civilization in the Middle Ages," where he takes a more cynical view of the actions involved.