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Truth and decency > etiquette. I'll stick with these summaries as they're far less time consuming and often more to the point. Good luck with your 'victory'.

lionhearted 16y ago
> Truth and decency > etiquette. Not according to the guy who runs the site: "Be civil. Don't say things you wouldn't say in a face to face conversation. When disagreeing, please reply to the argument instead of calling names." http://ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html http://ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html > Good luck with your 'victory'. You know what I'm most proud of? It's that I get a chance to work hands-on with and serve a lot of people. I answer pretty much every email I get, I reach out to help people whenever I can, I look to serve, and I do cool things with good people. And yeah, my life is pretty good individually, too. So seriously, next time you feel like calling names, why don't you channel the energy into reaching out to someone to help them? Or to building something? Or maybe start your own blog, and share your insights on there? Or go build a productive business? Or contribute to a nonprofit?
- alnayyir 16y ago
  >"Be civil. Don't say things you wouldn't say in a face to face conversation. When disagreeing, please reply to the argument instead of calling names." I was civil, and I was marking the post for what it was. I've gone out of my way to explain my opposition to this charlantry and instead you saw it as an opportunity to paint me as unhinged, rather than merely concerned about the community. You no longer deserve an explanation, you robbed yourself of that with your political games designed to make me look bad. You may enjoy my summaries in silence, or you can keep drawing attention to me. It's up to you. You won't get any more effort at explication out of me though, no-how. >You seem to hate me personally Not at all, you're one instance of a class of plague that furthers the disinterest and apathy of talented people in startups and entrepreneurialism. They will peruse HN or similar communities for a time, run into non-content such as you post, and run screaming. Your existence and those of your ilk serve to harm the startup industry and give the corporations more leverage to hold onto the truly good hackers. People like you have done more to make my efforts of making fellow hackers aware of opportunities in self-employment, startups, and entrepreneurialism more difficult than anything else. Worse than the global financial crisis, in terms of how often I hear a given excuse/reason, for not considering alternatives to their current jobs. I'll keep molding my bread, even if it isn't pretty.
  - lionhearted 16y ago
    I'm actually glad you replied with your perspective. Now I can see where you're coming from. > Not at all, you're one instance of a class of plague that furthers the disinterest and apathy of talented people in startups and entrepreneurialism. They will peruse HN or similar communities for a time, run into non-content such as you post, and run screaming. Your existence and those of your ilk serve to harm the startup industry and give the corporations more leverage to hold onto the truly good hackers. So, you're commenting is because you think my blog is harming the startup industry and giving corporations more leverage against hackers. I don't think that's the case - I'm all for for self-employment and people doing their own thing. I pretty regularly encourage people to do just that, and offer to lend a hand to anyone who has questions or I can help, and I've done a fairly large amount of free work for people here to lend a hand. Personally, I've contracted or ran my own company in 3-4 different fields, had employees, negotiated contracts, done large-ish deals, and lived/worked/traveled through 40+ countries. I share those experiences. Also, I share what I'm learning on tracking time, building habits, I review books, write lots on history... But you know what, I'm open to a dialog here. You've got a serious aversion to me, and I feel like it's really uncalled-for. I haven't done wrong by you, and I work to make myself valuable, serve people, and do my writing to the best of my ability. But, what would you look for more of? What's missing? For instance, in this post here that you don't seem to like - I'm looking for the link that makes someone good at getting money in a self-employed/business context. I explored a few things, and I think one of the biggest is having no hangups - being willing to shovel snow even after being a multi-platinum selling artist. Or starting a valet parking company even though you know nothing about it. I think there's some interesting stuff in this post. Apparently others agree, because it's at #1 here. But you disagree. What would you prefer differently? Share your take and I'll listen - maybe I can learn here and improve.
    - alnayyir 16y ago
      Cut the sales pitch. Your reaction is emblematic of what I'm talking about. >What's missing? Substance.
      - lionhearted 16y ago
anamax 16y ago
> Truth and decency > etiquette. Etiquette is an implementation of decency so that inequality is basically "truth > 0". One can be truthful and decent without being a jerk. In fact, the most effective truthful and decent people are the "not jerks". FWIW, I've found that folks who try to justify being jerks with "I'm just telling the truth" typically aren't that truthful. They're just passive-agressive mean, which makes them worse than straight-up jerks.

lionhearted 16y ago

> Truth and decency > etiquette. Not according to the guy who runs the site: "Be civil. Don't say things you wouldn't say in a face to face conversation. When disagreeing, please reply to the argument instead of calling names." http://ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html http://ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html > Good luck with your 'victory'. You know what I'm most proud of? It's that I get a chance to work hands-on with and serve a lot of people. I answer pretty much every email I get, I reach out to help people whenever I can, I look to serve, and I do cool things with good people. And yeah, my life is pretty good individually, too. So seriously, next time you feel like calling names, why don't you channel the energy into reaching out to someone to help them? Or to building something? Or maybe start your own blog, and share your insights on there? Or go build a productive business? Or contribute to a nonprofit?

alnayyir 16y ago
>"Be civil. Don't say things you wouldn't say in a face to face conversation. When disagreeing, please reply to the argument instead of calling names." I was civil, and I was marking the post for what it was. I've gone out of my way to explain my opposition to this charlantry and instead you saw it as an opportunity to paint me as unhinged, rather than merely concerned about the community. You no longer deserve an explanation, you robbed yourself of that with your political games designed to make me look bad. You may enjoy my summaries in silence, or you can keep drawing attention to me. It's up to you. You won't get any more effort at explication out of me though, no-how. >You seem to hate me personally Not at all, you're one instance of a class of plague that furthers the disinterest and apathy of talented people in startups and entrepreneurialism. They will peruse HN or similar communities for a time, run into non-content such as you post, and run screaming. Your existence and those of your ilk serve to harm the startup industry and give the corporations more leverage to hold onto the truly good hackers. People like you have done more to make my efforts of making fellow hackers aware of opportunities in self-employment, startups, and entrepreneurialism more difficult than anything else. Worse than the global financial crisis, in terms of how often I hear a given excuse/reason, for not considering alternatives to their current jobs. I'll keep molding my bread, even if it isn't pretty.
- lionhearted 16y ago
  I'm actually glad you replied with your perspective. Now I can see where you're coming from. > Not at all, you're one instance of a class of plague that furthers the disinterest and apathy of talented people in startups and entrepreneurialism. They will peruse HN or similar communities for a time, run into non-content such as you post, and run screaming. Your existence and those of your ilk serve to harm the startup industry and give the corporations more leverage to hold onto the truly good hackers. So, you're commenting is because you think my blog is harming the startup industry and giving corporations more leverage against hackers. I don't think that's the case - I'm all for for self-employment and people doing their own thing. I pretty regularly encourage people to do just that, and offer to lend a hand to anyone who has questions or I can help, and I've done a fairly large amount of free work for people here to lend a hand. Personally, I've contracted or ran my own company in 3-4 different fields, had employees, negotiated contracts, done large-ish deals, and lived/worked/traveled through 40+ countries. I share those experiences. Also, I share what I'm learning on tracking time, building habits, I review books, write lots on history... But you know what, I'm open to a dialog here. You've got a serious aversion to me, and I feel like it's really uncalled-for. I haven't done wrong by you, and I work to make myself valuable, serve people, and do my writing to the best of my ability. But, what would you look for more of? What's missing? For instance, in this post here that you don't seem to like - I'm looking for the link that makes someone good at getting money in a self-employed/business context. I explored a few things, and I think one of the biggest is having no hangups - being willing to shovel snow even after being a multi-platinum selling artist. Or starting a valet parking company even though you know nothing about it. I think there's some interesting stuff in this post. Apparently others agree, because it's at #1 here. But you disagree. What would you prefer differently? Share your take and I'll listen - maybe I can learn here and improve.
  - alnayyir 16y ago
    Cut the sales pitch. Your reaction is emblematic of what I'm talking about. >What's missing? Substance.
    - lionhearted 16y ago

anamax 16y ago

> Truth and decency > etiquette. Etiquette is an implementation of decency so that inequality is basically "truth > 0". One can be truthful and decent without being a jerk. In fact, the most effective truthful and decent people are the "not jerks". FWIW, I've found that folks who try to justify being jerks with "I'm just telling the truth" typically aren't that truthful. They're just passive-agressive mean, which makes them worse than straight-up jerks.