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Speaking of dying, the world would be so much better if people died without pain. They would spare themselves and the closed ones from a lot of pain when the en

by bg24 7y ago

Speaking of dying, the world would be so much better if people died without pain. They would spare themselves and the closed ones from a lot of pain when the end result is obvious (death). Pain hurts. Both physically and mentally.

tamaharbor 7y ago
A family member with Stage IV cancer who can hardly move has to Uber into NYC weekly for them to 'approve' his pain medication. What are they worried about?
- JshWright 7y ago
  The system isn't flexible enough to account for the obviously correct cases. It has to be designed to combat the malicious actor (at least ostensibly... in practice it generally fails on both ends)
mrandish 7y ago
I'm not afraid of being dead but I'm worried about the experience of dying as long as we haven't fixed the broken way our laws make it so difficult for medical caregivers to use drugs for pain management.
- kls 7y ago
  It's funny I don't fear death and I don't fear the process but there are a few ways that I would not want to die. Burning to death would be high on that list as it is extremely painful to burn. I was burned fairly severely on my legs as a kid. The pains of death from old age that I have seen do not really scare me. That being said, and what I wanted to mention is that I don't fly, not because I fear death by plane crash but because I made the mistake of listing to a flight recorder one time and I developed a phobia of dying around a bunch of other people sharing that same fate. It really shook me that to die in a situation like that, it would be very hard to make your peace with death. With all the screaming and pleading going on around you. Not that I don't have empathy for those people but I have to steady myself and god forbid my family for the inevitable. I always liked the quote from Marcus Aurelius "Death smiles at us all, all a man can do is smile back" I think of that quote a lot when I am spearfishing and there are sharks around.
  - bodka 7y ago
    so philosophical
  - askafriend 7y ago
    You don't fly? ...do you drive?
    - kls 7y ago
      Yes I understand it is irrational. It's not the fear of death, I just don't want to die with a bunch of people I do not know that cannot steady themselves.
      - smabie 7y ago
        Would you fly your own private plane alone?
        kls 7y ago
        Yes I have no problem flying in small crafts with people I know.
thorei 7y ago
The family dynamics get really messy with this. I have an uncle who regularly expresses to me his desire to "get put to sleep peacefully like the family dogs" rather than be terrified all the time and waiting around to choke to death (late stage Parkinson's, and everything that can be is done is being done). My response is always, "I'll be the first to make that drive with you, but not while your brother is alive." There are some types of dog owners who as the dog ages will hit point where they're no longer keeping the dog alive for the dog's sake, but for their own. It's a bit like that, except they're not in a position to make that decision for them. But they'll do it all the same.

by bg24 7y ago

tamaharbor 7y ago

A family member with Stage IV cancer who can hardly move has to Uber into NYC weekly for them to 'approve' his pain medication. What are they worried about?

JshWright 7y ago
The system isn't flexible enough to account for the obviously correct cases. It has to be designed to combat the malicious actor (at least ostensibly... in practice it generally fails on both ends)

mrandish 7y ago

I'm not afraid of being dead but I'm worried about the experience of dying as long as we haven't fixed the broken way our laws make it so difficult for medical caregivers to use drugs for pain management.

kls 7y ago
It's funny I don't fear death and I don't fear the process but there are a few ways that I would not want to die. Burning to death would be high on that list as it is extremely painful to burn. I was burned fairly severely on my legs as a kid. The pains of death from old age that I have seen do not really scare me. That being said, and what I wanted to mention is that I don't fly, not because I fear death by plane crash but because I made the mistake of listing to a flight recorder one time and I developed a phobia of dying around a bunch of other people sharing that same fate. It really shook me that to die in a situation like that, it would be very hard to make your peace with death. With all the screaming and pleading going on around you. Not that I don't have empathy for those people but I have to steady myself and god forbid my family for the inevitable. I always liked the quote from Marcus Aurelius "Death smiles at us all, all a man can do is smile back" I think of that quote a lot when I am spearfishing and there are sharks around.
- bodka 7y ago
  so philosophical
- askafriend 7y ago
  You don't fly? ...do you drive?
  - kls 7y ago
    Yes I understand it is irrational. It's not the fear of death, I just don't want to die with a bunch of people I do not know that cannot steady themselves.
    - smabie 7y ago
      Would you fly your own private plane alone?
      - kls 7y ago
        Yes I have no problem flying in small crafts with people I know.

thorei 7y ago

The family dynamics get really messy with this. I have an uncle who regularly expresses to me his desire to "get put to sleep peacefully like the family dogs" rather than be terrified all the time and waiting around to choke to death (late stage Parkinson's, and everything that can be is done is being done). My response is always, "I'll be the first to make that drive with you, but not while your brother is alive." There are some types of dog owners who as the dog ages will hit point where they're no longer keeping the dog alive for the dog's sake, but for their own. It's a bit like that, except they're not in a position to make that decision for them. But they'll do it all the same.