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Some workers complains about their tools. Other just use whatever, fix problems, and make money.
by 1996 7y ago
Some workers complains about their tools.
Other just use whatever, fix problems, and make money.
- scarface74 7y agoUntil you need your next job and you see spending 10 years doing Perl was detrimental to your career...
- forinti 7y agoPerl has never been central to nor a requirement of my jobs, but it has always helped me immensely. -As a web developer, I use it to write all sorts of small webservices and file conversion utilities; -As a embedded system developer, I used it to integrate with other services in the network; -As a sysadmin and DBA, I use it a lot to parse all sorts of data. The downside is that I have to put up with the little jokes and criticisms. Then again, more than once I've been called because I was the only one who could do some job fast enough.
- petre 7y agoAt least it's fun to write modern Perl code compared to Js which is kind of annoying. Raku is also a very nice language but it's still too slow and hasn't gained much traction. Someone who's proficient in Perl can probably become productive in Python in less than a month.
- scarface74 7y agoI was traditionally the farthest thing from a JS callback hell fanboy, but, using modern JS with async/await and “classes” (yes I realize it’s syntactic sugar, prototypical inheritances, yada yada yada), it’s not bad. I haven’t played with TypeScript in a few years, but I’m looking to get back into it. But why fool with Perl at all - especially Raku since it’s basically a new language that doesn’t have the widespread support of Python or God forbid PHP?
- petre 7y agoOne fools with Perl if there's legacy Perl infrastructure in production. One does not simply rewrite 20+ kloc of working Perl code into something else just because it's cool. Mojolicious is a good and elegant web framework for modern Perl. I haven't seen anything comparable except maybe in Ruby.
- scarface74 7y agoBut specifically, why move to Raku for new projects?
- benbristow 7y agoI personally think Raku is a poor choice for new projects. I've never heard of anything relatively popular built with it. I get the feeling it's quite a hobbyist platform at this point. I'd rather use Perl 5 than Raku at the moment. At least Perl 5 has CPAN which is still somewhat alive.
- petre 7y agoIt's a bit like Julia, or Java 1.3, only without the marketing behind it. It's quite capable, definitely not a hobbyst project. Too slow and missing a lot of libraries though. And yes, Perl is still a better choice.
- petre 7y agoBecause of the rational math. For what it's worth it could replace Cobol, although I don't know if that's such a great thing. And maybe because it's a well designed language and a joy to program in, but we already have Ruby for that.
- benbristow 7y agoI'm more of a Ruby fan than a Python fan, but Python has Django, Flask, Tornado and others. https://steelkiwi.com/blog/top-10-python-web-frameworks-to-learn/ https://steelkiwi.com/blog/top-10-python-web-frameworks-to-l...