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Then why place the cryptic ad in the newspaper rather than actually post the job offering where it might be read and applied for by a US citizen? The only reas

Then why place the cryptic ad in the newspaper rather than actually post the job offering where it might be read and applied for by a US citizen? The only reason this makes sense is because they’re _afraid_ somebody qualified will actually apply.

jakear 7y ago
The newspaper posting is a legal requirement of a company sponsoring a green card application. I'nm sure you'd be able to find these or similar positions online too.
shadowgovt 7y ago
Does "the company website" count? https://jobs.apple.com/en-us/search?location=united-states-USA https://jobs.apple.com/en-us/search?location=united-states-U...
Klonoar 7y ago
The comment you replied to, again, pointed this out: they already do that, and attempt to hire every able-bodied software engineer possible.
esoterica 7y ago
They post the non-cryptic job listings online where people actually read them. The newspaper ad is just a legal contrivance.
zamalek 7y ago
> The only reason this makes sense is because they’re _afraid_ somebody qualified will actually apply. The process isn't cheap and isn't easy. All things equal regarding the employee and candidate, why would they be afraid of finding a suitable replacement? They aren't afraid of finding someone qualified. They are afraid of finding someone who is not. They are not allowed to over-specify the job posting, and are not allowed to require something like years of proprietary knowledge. The employee and the candidate both have to be treated like fresh hires. Edit: for example, in the Jony Ive green card process, a fresh University graduate would be able to displace him as a candidate. All of his experience was proprietary (gained while working at Apple) and therefore ineligible for consideration.
geofft 7y ago
There is a legal requirement to place a newspaper ad. They also do normal things like post on HN Who's Hiring threads, but the law hasn't been updated for that.

jakear 7y ago

The newspaper posting is a legal requirement of a company sponsoring a green card application. I'nm sure you'd be able to find these or similar positions online too.

shadowgovt 7y ago

Does "the company website" count? https://jobs.apple.com/en-us/search?location=united-states-USA https://jobs.apple.com/en-us/search?location=united-states-U...

Klonoar 7y ago

The comment you replied to, again, pointed this out: they already do that, and attempt to hire every able-bodied software engineer possible.

esoterica 7y ago

They post the non-cryptic job listings online where people actually read them. The newspaper ad is just a legal contrivance.

zamalek 7y ago

> The only reason this makes sense is because they’re _afraid_ somebody qualified will actually apply. The process isn't cheap and isn't easy. All things equal regarding the employee and candidate, why would they be afraid of finding a suitable replacement? They aren't afraid of finding someone qualified. They are afraid of finding someone who is not. They are not allowed to over-specify the job posting, and are not allowed to require something like years of proprietary knowledge. The employee and the candidate both have to be treated like fresh hires. Edit: for example, in the Jony Ive green card process, a fresh University graduate would be able to displace him as a candidate. All of his experience was proprietary (gained while working at Apple) and therefore ineligible for consideration.

geofft 7y ago

There is a legal requirement to place a newspaper ad. They also do normal things like post on HN Who's Hiring threads, but the law hasn't been updated for that.