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Incorrect: https://biblehub.com/matthew/5-17.htm https://biblehub.com/matthew/5-17.htm

nzealand 7y ago
The christian bible was independently written by multiple authors over hundreds of years. If you are going to treat these writings as a single cohesive narrative, you still have to keep in mind the context. One of the most interesting aspects of the writings Jesus, is that he only ever taught Jews. Jesus in fact never really laid out a formal theology of what to do after his death, he simply stresses that the second coming would be very soon. The only person to discuss the applicability of the Torah to non jewish followers of Jesus is Paul. Paul is extremely clear that the Jewish law does not apply to non Jews. It's also interesting that Paul never met Jesus, that Paul persecuted christians until a burning bush talked to Paul in a moment of divine inspiration, and afterwards Paul largely relied on his excellent knowledge of jewish scripture to explain why the jewish scripture no longer applied anymore.
drdeca 7y ago
I think this point could use more commentary and context. There are many verses which deal with “what now if the law?”, and I think a fuller understanding requires reading more than one of them. For example, there is, of course, the parts about the dietary restrictions part of the law. But that isn’t all. Male converts to Judaism were required to be circumcised, but NT verses say that this is not required to convert to Christianity (though, not phrased like that of course), and in talking about this, it also talks about what the law succeeds in, and what it, well, not fails in, but, it’s insufficiency in the face of human failure? I’m saying this not to say that the NT condones sex between two cisgender men (indeed, I believe that at one point after the resurrection, some apostles are on an island, and are telling the people there about Christ, and the text describes the homosexual sexual practices practiced by those native to the island as (in at least one common translation. This is by memory.) as “unnatural”, which seems to me to indicate disapproval, though I haven’t looked at commentary on how this was worded in the original Greek.) My apologies for not including links and citations; I haven’t gotten out of bed yet this morning, and am typing this on my phone.

The christian bible was independently written by multiple authors over hundreds of years. If you are going to treat these writings as a single cohesive narrative, you still have to keep in mind the context. One of the most interesting aspects of the writings Jesus, is that he only ever taught Jews. Jesus in fact never really laid out a formal theology of what to do after his death, he simply stresses that the second coming would be very soon. The only person to discuss the applicability of the Torah to non jewish followers of Jesus is Paul. Paul is extremely clear that the Jewish law does not apply to non Jews. It's also interesting that Paul never met Jesus, that Paul persecuted christians until a burning bush talked to Paul in a moment of divine inspiration, and afterwards Paul largely relied on his excellent knowledge of jewish scripture to explain why the jewish scripture no longer applied anymore.

drdeca 7y ago

I think this point could use more commentary and context. There are many verses which deal with “what now if the law?”, and I think a fuller understanding requires reading more than one of them. For example, there is, of course, the parts about the dietary restrictions part of the law. But that isn’t all. Male converts to Judaism were required to be circumcised, but NT verses say that this is not required to convert to Christianity (though, not phrased like that of course), and in talking about this, it also talks about what the law succeeds in, and what it, well, not fails in, but, it’s insufficiency in the face of human failure? I’m saying this not to say that the NT condones sex between two cisgender men (indeed, I believe that at one point after the resurrection, some apostles are on an island, and are telling the people there about Christ, and the text describes the homosexual sexual practices practiced by those native to the island as (in at least one common translation. This is by memory.) as “unnatural”, which seems to me to indicate disapproval, though I haven’t looked at commentary on how this was worded in the original Greek.) My apologies for not including links and citations; I haven’t gotten out of bed yet this morning, and am typing this on my phone.