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US Spaceforce.mil Goes Live
- sdan 7y agoKind of off-topic, but it's interesting to see they're using Google Analytics on a government website. Not surprised though, pretty sure they may use it on other gov websites (although I haven't checked).
- TomMckenny 7y agoIt's hard to imagine how any possible benefits from this god awful expensive saber rattling is going to outweigh the world wide hit to American's reputation. But I don't imagine that was any part of the calculations solely weighing political contributions with pork barrel pay back.
- raverbashing 7y agoI don't know, if you're putting money into the MIC that's mostly going into research I'd say that's better than the alternative
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- tehjoker 7y agoGoodbye international treaties on the peaceful use of space.
- Rebelgecko 7y agoThe Space Force isn't going to do anything that the Air Force hasn't been doing for decades. Operating a GPS satellite isn't in violation of the OST. Neither is operating reconnaissance satellites or putting actual (non WMD) weapons in space.
- tehjoker 7y agoI dunno, you're right this has been going on a long time, but I feel like the creation of a new branch means operations will intensify and get more "creative" over time.
- meddlepal 7y agoThe militarization of space was going to happen eventually no matter what. It's a necessary precursor to colonization but also national security as the cost of access to space plummets.
- okusername 7y agoSeveral countries have shown the capability of destroying satellites, not to speak of spy satellites and gps, and the fact that the spaceshuttle and its military sibling was designed to scoop up satellites and bring them back to earth. Space was never not militarized.
- foolfoolz 7y agoit’s already happened we’re just making it more official
- tehjoker 7y agoI really dispute the idea that it's "inevitable", it's just that we live in an era where the standing army and intensifying competition between nations is the way things work. It really is not something that is ordained by god. Look at the Atlantic Charter and other similar documents that could have set the world on a different path if they had been taken seriously. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_Charter https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_Charter
- sdinsn 7y agoThe SF's creation doesn't change anything.
- profitnot 7y agoLet's see the uniforms, please. No! NOT ENOUGH MYLAR!!
- hackerposter77 7y agoPeace is not free and does not come cheaply with wishful thinking.
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- jbverschoor 7y agoElon and NASA have a better taste in space fonts.
- tempodox 7y agoNot to mention the color scheme. Squeaky white text on pitch-black background is a cardinal design sin. Given that they're literally aiming for rocket science, this doesn't bode well.
- jasoncartwright 7y agoUnited Nations Committee on the Peaceful Uses of Outer Space Treaties and Agreements... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Committee_on_the_Peaceful_Uses_of_Outer_Space#Treaties_and_agreements https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Committee_on_th...
- segfaultbuserr 7y ago> The Outer Space Treaty does not ban military activities within space, military space forces, or the weaponization of space, with the exception of the placement of weapons of mass destruction in space. Let's just hope that they won't deploy nukes in space in the next few decades...
- oaiey 7y agoWhat will stop them. I more and more understand Russia and China regards the anti missile defends. There is no effective treaty or rationale leaders anymore.
- berbec 7y agoHeinlein showed us the don't need nukes - just rocks. 0: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Moon_Is_a_Harsh_Mistress https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Moon_Is_a_Harsh_Mistress
- sdinsn 7y agoWould you like to expand on your comment? This committee is irrelevant.
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- gitanovic 7y agoThe website looks a bit amateurish at best
- lame-robot-hoax 7y agoLooks like shit tbh. Seen way better websites come out of an Intro to Web Dev class in uni.
- rambojazz 7y agoAs long as it provides useful information and doesn't have a 100MB homepage, I don't see any problems with the site.
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- Thorentis 7y agoWhile the idea that space would forever be a shared, international region akin to Antarctica, the militarisation of space was bound to happen eventually. While there are some downsides, I actually think this is a net positive. War-time, or at least the preparations for potential war-time (as all military endeavours actually are), usually lead to the greatest scientific and technical advancements. Just looks at WW1, WW2, the Cold War. I think we are now entering a "space cold war". Hopefully it can stay a "cold" war. But it is exciting to see what developments may come along. The other upside, is that if the US achieves space superiority (which it already has, but if it develops the means to properly enforce it - which it is trying to do with this space force), it will open up the potential for proper commericialization. The US will be able to enforce space trade law, customs law, private property in space will be made possible. This will enable companies like SpaceX to have a proper legal framework within which to operate.
- ivrrimum 7y agoWhat space superiority does the space have? :D Russia is currently space superior, technically.
- hyperbovine 7y agoHow many of the 90m people who died in the world wars would have gone on to have amazing scientific careers? I can name a few. The idea that war is the best way to fund science is reprehensible.
- rambojazz 7y agoI'd rather take 100 years for tech to develop slowly than have it next year for the price of war.
- harikb 7y ago> The US will be able to enforce space trade law, customs law, private property in space will be made possible. This will enable companies like SpaceX to have a proper legal framework within which to operate. Even if you don’t believe current President is incompetent, don’t rule out a future one you might hate. If such a force existed, you can be sure it will be used for evil and for extracting favors for private entities eventually. These things are never done for the good of the regular people. SpaceX doesn’t have a lawful society to operate in already?
- ghouse 7y agoAnd how are we paying for this sixth branch of the US military?
- trikonasana 7y agoThis is mostly a re-alignment of forces and civilian personnel who are already doing the job (of which there are many, across multiple services). There is actually little additional cost here...I think $2B over 5 years...which is a small portion of the $738B defense budget.
- steve19 7y agoTaxes and debt.
- mgolawala 7y agoUntil a corresponding increase in taxation is made to pay for a new expenditure. The new expenditure is paid for entirely by debt.
- Rebelgecko 7y agoMostly with debt. Initially it's only $40m, although will probably get more expensive over time. Previous secretary of AF predicted $12 billion, but I think that was with a version of the plan that was more involved (such as USSF taking over the NRO)
- sdinsn 7y agoDebt, the same way the US pays for literally everything
- tibbydudeza 7y agoBeen wondering ... what is the situation around Mars ???. Now suppose the indian space program improves by leaps and bounds and they start to colonize Mars and claim it as part of the greater Indian Republic ???.